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re: Landon Donovan sets MLS record of 136 goals (2 goals and assist)
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:20 am to rockchlkjayhku11
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:20 am to rockchlkjayhku11
That goal was so fricking sweet.
And how much do I love Mike Magee.
When the Galaxy traded him I was so furious.
I could tell when the match started that Keane and Donovan were on a mission to get 135 tonight.
#LegenD
And how much do I love Mike Magee.
When the Galaxy traded him I was so furious.
I could tell when the match started that Keane and Donovan were on a mission to get 135 tonight.
#LegenD
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:37 am to rockchlkjayhku11
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i dont see how anyone can support klinsmann after everything that has happened now.
What has happened now? Landon got pissed off and scored two goals against one of the worst MLS teams, after not scoring any for the rest of the season?
You're operating under the assumption that it was the wrong decision and using last night as further evidence.
That's fine, but if your assumption is wrong, then last night didn't change anything.
Also, when you say that you don't see how anyone can support Klinsmann at this point, do you mean support him in general or just support him in this decision?
I support him in general, as nearly everyone did a couple of weeks ago. I'm not sure about this decision. It certainly could have just been personal, and JK hasn't really said anything to dispel that notion.
It must be said, though, that y'all are being disingenuous with this "#notbest23" stuff. Donovan even in poor form is probably still one of the best 23 even in JK's mind, but that's not the question. The question JK had to answer to himself is whether or not including LD helps the team more than it hurts the team. You don't just take the "best 23" overall players, and y'all know that.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:54 am to uway
Calm down, the hashtag thing is a joke.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:10 am to Broski
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Message Posted by Broski Calm down, the hashtag thing is a joke.
Ok but I'm going to get super angry if any if y'all use that argument seriously again.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 12:03 pm to uway
You are not up on the hashtag game, Brah
Posted on 5/26/14 at 12:15 pm to uway
Please. Dont downplay the significance of his performance yesterday after you watched him play poorly in like two games and were using that to justify Juergen's decision.
Wrt the "best team not best 23" argument, you're much more limited in the types of roster decisions you can make at the international level and still retain optimal quality. That's why people are skeptical.
Wrt the "best team not best 23" argument, you're much more limited in the types of roster decisions you can make at the international level and still retain optimal quality. That's why people are skeptical.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 12:34 pm to joey barton
First off, if there is an injury and he is called back in, I will be elated, as last night was the Landon Donovan we all love and expect.
That being said, if he was motivated AFTER not making the 23 and that led to last night...That is a problem. Also, I don't think the greatest American player ever should have been spending the last six months telling the media what he can't do anymore. You don't think that Dempsey hurts after training or Beckerman doesn't feel the affects of being 32. If a coach doesn't think you are going to give everything for the cause, you will not make that team.
Like I said, if there is an injury and he returns, I will be elated, but I hope it is the motivated Donovan that we saw last night, and not the Donovan that started the whole twilight of his career narrative that we have heard for the last six months.
That being said, if he was motivated AFTER not making the 23 and that led to last night...That is a problem. Also, I don't think the greatest American player ever should have been spending the last six months telling the media what he can't do anymore. You don't think that Dempsey hurts after training or Beckerman doesn't feel the affects of being 32. If a coach doesn't think you are going to give everything for the cause, you will not make that team.
Like I said, if there is an injury and he returns, I will be elated, but I hope it is the motivated Donovan that we saw last night, and not the Donovan that started the whole twilight of his career narrative that we have heard for the last six months.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 12:42 pm to sawillis
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Like I said, if there is an injury and he returns, I will be elated, but I hope it is the motivated Donovan that we saw last night, and not the Donovan that started the whole twilight of his career narrative that we have heard for the last six months.
+1
But let's hope he got all of the self congratulations out of his system.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:15 pm to sawillis
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That being said, if he was motivated AFTER not making the 23 and that led to last night...That is a problem.
I really don't see how it's a problem at all unless one intends to say he wouldn't be "motivated" playing his final WC in Brazil.
Maybe it's because I'm a long time fan of AS Roma and we have Totti who has had to "limit" his practice much more than Donovan to varying degrees all the way back to his serious knee injury in 2006 that I absolutely fail to see the issue at all with being honest that after 30 we're not able to do same things as at 22 day in, day out.
However, anytime a Roma manager has used that as a reason to not maximize Totti's impact even if he's lost a LOT of pace, it always turned out to be the wrong decision. And there have been some who (perhaps like Klinsmann) have been a bit too caught up in "their" scheme to be flexible and find a way to get the most impact out of their players with special quality.
I'm not arguing that Donovan is as good as Totti but he is certainly comparable in terms of his quality and ability to create chances compared to other US players. Neither Totti at Roma nor Donovan with the USMNT are keeping Messi on the bench.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:19 pm to uway
Landon supposedly finished in the top 3 in the beep test. Landon's performance last night seems to back that up.
btw, landon thread on bigsoccer is 121+ pages right now.
btw, landon thread on bigsoccer is 121+ pages right now.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:21 pm to inelishaitrust
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Landon supposedly finished in the top 3 in the beep test.
Where did you read that?
Because if true, all the sheep bleating about "FITNESS" can go get sheared.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:25 pm to inelishaitrust
Who was 2? I know Bradley was 1. He's the first person to still be going at 15 minutes since Hejduk.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:42 pm to cwil177
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Who was 2? I know Bradley was 1. He's the first person to still be going at 15 minutes since Hejduk.
My guess is Beasley.
And not Dempsey.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:42 pm to cwil177
Based on the footage from the Roger Bennett series, it looked like Beckerman (second) and Donovan (third) did well on the pacer test.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:09 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
I love Beckerman so much.
If Donovan was that fit, I'm starting to really worry about how this will affect team chemistry.
If Donovan was that fit, I'm starting to really worry about how this will affect team chemistry.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:14 pm to uway
I have definitely done a 180 on Beckerman. The fact that Jones is so undisciplined makes him an attractive option.
It is pretty scary how everything released since has been pro-Donovan. I was always mildly skeptical of Jurgen, but there is no way I can support him anymore.
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If Donovan was that fit, I'm starting to really worry about how this will affect team chemistry.
It is pretty scary how everything released since has been pro-Donovan. I was always mildly skeptical of Jurgen, but there is no way I can support him anymore.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:24 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
i love beckerman, now, as well. he plays basically exactly how i did and i cant help but like guys that i relate to. it's a pretty easy job/role, but it's good to see it done well. bradley is basically the same kind of player except wayyyyy fricking better at it than even beckerman.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:33 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Jurgy may have given himself his own Greg Ryan moment.
Everyone, from fans to writers to players, asking why and criticizing the decision.
This will follow Jurgy all the way to the World Cup and beyond, possibly.
Everyone, from fans to writers to players, asking why and criticizing the decision.
This will follow Jurgy all the way to the World Cup and beyond, possibly.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:33 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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but there is no way I can support him anymore.
I support the 23 in the uniform and the coach fully. Goodson is coming across as butthurt and whiney to me.
I still picture the best game in qualifying that was played, which was Panama in Seattle and that terrific introduction the the 4-4-2 Diamond in the first half vs Mexico in April. Both didn't have Donovan or Goodson in the lineup at the start.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:40 pm to sawillis
you can't really do that comparison and have it make any sense. parkhurst played all of one game that you mentioned and eddie johnson played pretty much all of the other.
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