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re: FIFA dismisses Belgium appeal
Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:54 pm to engvol
Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:54 pm to engvol
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If you've ever played a proper game of football, someone standing on your ankle accident or not for as long as Balogan did hurts. It doesn't have to snap to hurt.
The T beside your name makes it impossible to take anything you say about integrity seriously, as you presumably supported Phil Fulmer, a man that is essentially the singular embodiment of the worst of the Mexican national team and its fans in terms of duplicity, entitlement, and BMI.
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:55 pm to engvol
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If you've ever played a proper game of football, someone standing on your ankle accident or not for as long as Balogan did hurts. It doesn't have to snap to hurt.
"Hurt" to an American means an actual injury, not just pain.
The guy was not injured.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:56 pm to TideCPA
The response of Europeans to this issue makes me understand why their countries are being colonized by Muslims and Africans. The natives are completely and utterly neutered and have become the whiniest pussies on Earth.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:58 pm to SCLibertarian
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The response of Europeans to this issue makes me understand why their countries are being colonized by Muslims and Africans. The natives are completely and utterly neutered and have become the whiniest pussies on Earth.
There are two types of people in the world, those that just let life happen to them and accept that sometimes there is good and sometimes there is bad, and those that cannot abide an injustice and work tirelessly to make things right.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:58 pm to BamaChemE
Good response, hope you stick around after this.
Anyway, I'm sure that if this situation was reversed everyone on this board would agree with the circumstances if it negatively impacted the USMNT, or if for example this had happened to benefit the Saudis.
FIFA gets blasted because they are as corrupt as an organisation can be, and this - to the outside world - stinks of a dodgy decision to benefit a host country with whom the president of FIFA has been kissing arse every second he's been in office.
Anyway, I'm sure that if this situation was reversed everyone on this board would agree with the circumstances if it negatively impacted the USMNT, or if for example this had happened to benefit the Saudis.
FIFA gets blasted because they are as corrupt as an organisation can be, and this - to the outside world - stinks of a dodgy decision to benefit a host country with whom the president of FIFA has been kissing arse every second he's been in office.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:59 pm to gaetti15
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they reaallly love their moral superiority and sense of justice and ethics
Europe is the formerly wealthy and influential family clinging to false virtue and long forgotten heritage in an effort to feel superior as their century old mansion collapses around them and is the eyesore of the neighborhood - essentially the gray gardens documentary in continent form.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:59 pm to engvol
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Anyway, I'm sure that if this situation was reversed everyone on this board would agree with the circumstances if it negatively impacted the USMNT, or if for example this had happened to benefit the Saudis.
no, don't speak everyone. Some of us aren't lame. Not me per se, but some of us.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:00 pm to engvol
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FIFA gets blasted because they are as corrupt as an organisation can be, and this - to the outside world - stinks of a dodgy decision to benefit a host country with whom the president of FIFA has been kissing arse every second he's been in office.
If you don't think that should've been a red card why be upset? Isn't the ultimate goal to have the right decision be made regarding a players actions and subsequent punishment?
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:02 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:This whole episode really does reveal the chasm between the American and European mindset.
The response of Europeans to this issue makes me understand why their countries are being colonized by Muslims and Africans. The natives are completely and utterly neutered and have become the whiniest pussies on Earth.
Americans see a potential wrong in the Balogun situation and their reactions are 1) to seek immediate redress to the governing body to rectify that wrong, and 2) propose rule changes that would make suspension appeals easier (or even to do away with auto-suspensions in short tournaments like this).
Europeans see a potential wrong in the Balogun situation and their reactions are 1) to shrug and just say that multi-game suspensions on bogus grounds are just part and parcel of the game (disregarding existing appeals processes in most other league/tournament contexts), and 2) become incredibly angry at any attempts on the part of the wronged party to litigate the issue, accusing them of ruining the game.
No wonder their largest exports are reams of asinine regulations.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:03 pm to TideCPA
They should be spending their collective energy on winning the match.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:06 pm to TideCPA
Was the reaction the same for the other players that received the same remediation to a red card, like Ronaldo?
They are outraged for no other reason than it was a positive outcome for America. There is no rationalization with people like that. We see it domestically too.
They are outraged for no other reason than it was a positive outcome for America. There is no rationalization with people like that. We see it domestically too.
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:06 pm to bisonduck
I don't understand what the fuss is about. All of the people complaining are the same ones who think all of our players suck. So, it shouldn't matter if Balogun plays or not.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:07 pm to St Augustine
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Godamn this could’ve been handled so much fricking smoother. It’s like fifa enjoys the controversy
New to soccer and FIFA huh?
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:11 pm to CatfishJohn
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If you don't think that should've been a red card why be upset? Isn't the ultimate goal to have the right decision be made regarding a players actions and subsequent punishment?
I'm 50:50 on it, I wouldn't want it for my team, I'd want it for my opponent which means it's subjective and you aren't going to get a 100% correct decision in my opinion. That is a situation /scenario in every sport I can think of.
I think the decision would maybe look better if Trump hadn't championed how he called Infantino etc. but he did, the call should have been shut down immediately but evidently wasn't. However, I would still question the credibility of it happening given it's a host country in a very profitable country that FIFA has always wanted to expand into for financial purposes and a seldom used law enacted to help that game.
I thought the same about Ronaldo's suspension, it again doesn't take a genius to see the potential financial benefits to the organisation having arguably the world's most famous person playing in every game possible. I don't know anyone who didn't think that was a ropey decision fuelled by greed.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:37 pm to TideCPA
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Europeans see a potential wrong in the Balogun situation and their reactions are 1) to shrug and just say that multi-game suspensions on bogus grounds are just part and parcel of the game (disregarding existing appeals processes in most other league/tournament contexts), and 2) become incredibly angry at any attempts on the part of the wronged party to litigate the issue, accusing them of ruining the game.
Isn’t this basically what happens when someone gets kicked out for targeting in CFB?
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:38 pm to engvol
I'm sure FIFA would love a Ronaldo/Messi final. Let's see how the calls in the Portugal/Spain game shake out to continue confirming this is the fix.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:41 pm to Dizz
You can appeal a targeting suspension after the game and try to get it overturned. Also the targeting suspension isn’t nearly as punitive, as you only miss the first half of the next game.
Honestly it wouldn’t be a bad idea for soccer to try to copy, I.e go with a suspension rule more similar to targeting than what they normally have. Red card in the first half you just miss that game, red card in second half you miss the first half of the next game.
Honestly it wouldn’t be a bad idea for soccer to try to copy, I.e go with a suspension rule more similar to targeting than what they normally have. Red card in the first half you just miss that game, red card in second half you miss the first half of the next game.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:42 pm to Dizz
quote:It's not analogous for a couple reasons:
Isn’t this basically what happens when someone gets kicked out for targeting in CFB?
1. Historically it's been a two-half suspension penalty (which carried over to the next game if committed in the second half). Red cards result in a full match ban, along with the remainder of the match you're in (so up to 2 full games).
2. You can appeal a targeting call/suspension.
3. CFB is constantly revisiting the rule, and in 2026 has done away with carryover half suspension for a first offense.
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:43 pm to engvol
I’m all for the US against the world mentality anyway so not bent out of shape everyones getting behind Belgium calling us cheaters but I can’t comprehend how pussified they come across with all this cheating talk. You scared, say you’re scared.
Maybe I’m just accustomed to BS eligibility rules being from SEC country where it’s typical to see teams with players out of eligibility being granted additional years to compete. In this case it was a FIFA disciplinary ruling, how does that make us cheaters? don’t matter, if not for the red card suspension they would’ve all found other reasons to root against us anyway.
Maybe I’m just accustomed to BS eligibility rules being from SEC country where it’s typical to see teams with players out of eligibility being granted additional years to compete. In this case it was a FIFA disciplinary ruling, how does that make us cheaters? don’t matter, if not for the red card suspension they would’ve all found other reasons to root against us anyway.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 1:49 pm to TideCPA
I think targeting is a very interesting comp to make because it highlights a cultural difference of approach to the same issue.
American fans don’t like these sort of suspensions as a rule and think they’re unfair. Ever since the NCAA introduced suspensions for targeting the fan bases and teams have been pushing back and raising complaints and slowly but surely the rule has gotten less severe and now they aren’t even suspending for a first time offense.
Meanwhile the Europeans just accept red cards and suspension rules as an immutable law of the universe that can’t be changed or challenged but rather just suffered.
American fans don’t like these sort of suspensions as a rule and think they’re unfair. Ever since the NCAA introduced suspensions for targeting the fan bases and teams have been pushing back and raising complaints and slowly but surely the rule has gotten less severe and now they aren’t even suspending for a first time offense.
Meanwhile the Europeans just accept red cards and suspension rules as an immutable law of the universe that can’t be changed or challenged but rather just suffered.
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