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re: Could a high school boys soccer team beat a World Cup women's team?

Posted on 6/27/11 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by saderade
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Posted on 6/27/11 at 5:56 pm to
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I'd be willing to bet that our teams from my 8th - 10th grade years (2002-2005) at VCH would be pretty competitive with a top college women's team
I would think so. But against the best 11 females players in the country (who are also in excellent shape) is a different story.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/27/11 at 6:16 pm to
i don't think most people know how good jesuit was compared to the rest of the state, on average

their win streak was like 80 or so when st. paul's beat them for the title

they would work any women's team ever created
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 6/27/11 at 6:59 pm to
How would the US women's team do against American Samoa's men?

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Posted by saderade
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Posted on 6/27/11 at 7:50 pm to
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i don't think most people know how good jesuit was compared to the rest of the state, on average

their win streak was like 80 or so when st. paul's beat them for the title

they would work any women's team ever created
I played at BM in the early 2000s (won state and then was runner up the next year) - went to a national high school tourney in FL and beat the defending national champs (Jesuit Tampa). I recently played the U18 Louisiana Fire select (mostly Jesuit, St Paul's kids) that got second in regionals losing to defending national champs. The bottom line is La high school soccer is not that great on a national level. Only 3 or 4 of those kids even go to play college soccer. The US women's national team would beat any La high school team in the last 10 years. I stand by that statement.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 6/27/11 at 8:16 pm to
I've seen an intramural team that had 7 people, but if they had a full team it wouldn't surprise me at all if they beat the US women.
This post was edited on 6/27/11 at 8:17 pm
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 9:11 am to
Then no offense but you're fricking retarded. Jesuit 2009 and Lafayette 2006 would at the very least be an even match with the US womens world cup team. I'm watching these games and the women don't even seem that skilled. At least not enough to make up the difference in athleticism. Average louisiana high school teams, yes the women would kill them, but the elite teams are made up of players who've been playing for 10+ years at least 4 times a week for 9 months of the year. The people saying the women would destroy them tactically arent giving the elite HS teams enough credit
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 9:16 am to
Mullins is insanely good. He didn't even really try in high school soccer bc for the most part the teams were so far below his level and its not like jesuit needed 100% effort from him to win anyway. He was ACC freshman of the year at maryland this past year and hes in the u-21 national team pool but i dont think hes actually gotten on the roster yet.
Posted by saderade
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 9:19 am to
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giving the elite HS teams enough credit
Elite in Louisiana (esp high school) is overrated. Put Jesuit against the Dallas Texans club team and it would be 5-0. Those of the type of high school kids that would beat the US National team, not undersized but skilled players from New Orleans.
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 9:26 am to
I agree the u-18/u-17 texans would kill jesuit or LHS 5-0. They'd probably beat the womens NT 6 or 7-0.
Posted by CootKilla
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 10:03 am to
My junior year of high school I went to a camp at Texas A&M. There was a game on the last day that consisted of camp allstars vs the womens A&M team who was then ranked in the top ten in the nation. I believe we won 4-2. There were some pretty elite guys from Texas on the camp team though.
Posted by americanoutlaw
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 10:23 am to
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I'm watching these games and the women don't even seem that skilled.

This is the main thing I've noticed watching these games. These women honestly don't seem that skilled. We tend to think that athleticism and skill are separate characteristics, but they are intertwined. If you have inferior speed, strength, and hand eye coordination, then your skills will not be that much greater regardless of training.
I watched the US team play Mexico a few weeks back and our passing in the final third was horrendous. On top of that, we had about 40 shots and only 10 or so were on frame. They only managed to score once on Mexico's 16 year old goal. That team was inferior in tactics, athleticism, and skill, but we the US only won 1-0. I really feel like an elite HS team could beat them, even one in louisiana. An individual like Mullins would own these international team. He's like 6'4", who would stop him on a free kick?
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 12:27 pm to
My brother's U-17 club team is one of the top teams in his age group in the Midwest region and the best in the state of Ohio and he says his team would for sure beat the USWNT. I don't know whether that's true or not, but I guess I could see it. I doubt an average HS team could, but the top ones, yeah.

ETA: And every year, the boys "JV B" team (so not even the "top" JV kids) at his HS play the varsity girls. The boys' program is above average in the state, but certainly not great, while the girls' is one of the state's elite, with two state championships in the past decade and a state runner-up a couple years ago. The boys typically win 4-0 or 5-0.
This post was edited on 6/28/11 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 1:31 pm to
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My brother's U-17 club team is one of the top teams in his age group in the Midwest region and the best in the state of Ohio and he says his team would for sure beat the USWNT. I don't know whether that's true or not, but I guess I could see it. I doubt an average HS team could, but the top ones, yeah.

Ohio is pretty loaded for soccer, so yeah, I believe that they would beat the women's team. Like I said, good high school teams would have a very good chance and elite high school teams would almost definitely win.
This post was edited on 6/28/11 at 1:32 pm
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 2:50 pm to
a brazil, germany, us, norway, china. Hell no.

I mean in high school we would beat teams 8-0, 10-0. There is a huge gap in skill levels in public schools. jut like in football.

Now a club team with kids that have played together since they were 7 and 8 could.
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 3:16 pm to
I rather suspect it's like any other sport that doesn't rely on upper body strength - there's still a difference but it is much less than one would think.

For example, an elite high school male runner can beat a world-class female athlete, but most boys state champions would be left in the dust.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 3:22 pm to
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For example, an elite high school male runner can beat a world-class female athlete, but most boys state champions would be left in the dust.

Depends on the distance. The longer, the better for the world class female.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 4:24 pm to
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I rather suspect it's like any other sport that doesn't rely on upper body strength - there's still a difference but it is much less than one would think.


This. Ya'll are attributing a team made of mostly non-elite high school kids in a fringe sport with this athletic advantage over the 11 best women in a whole country. Everyone is so quick to assume the testosterone advantage reigns king that they don't look at the data we do have on the athleticism comparison between good high school athletes and world class women.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 5:34 pm to
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This. Ya'll are attributing a team made of mostly non-elite high school kids in a fringe sport with this athletic advantage over the 11 best women in a whole country. Everyone is so quick to assume the testosterone advantage reigns king that they don't look at the data we do have on the athleticism comparison between good high school athletes and world class women.


I think you're overstating the gap in technical skill.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 6:45 pm to
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Elite in Louisiana (esp high school) is overrated.


everyone knows that soccer in lousiana is pretty shitty. people on here have had trouble admitting that though every time ive said it. i think they feel like it somehow demeans them if they played in lousiana, which is just retarded.
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 6/28/11 at 7:42 pm to
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Everyone is so quick to assume the testosterone advantage reigns king that they don't look at the data we do have on the athleticism comparison between good high school athletes and world class women.


Precisely. The US U-17 team would beat the women's national team like a drum, but pretty much any high school boys team would lose, a lot of them pretty badly.

American football would be a different matter, of course. Upper body strength matters just a tad there.
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