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re: Zelensky: Russia must return all territory gained since 2014, calls it a redline

Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2204 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:41 pm to
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When are you flying to Ukraine to serve Z man?

Right after you report to Gaza and start killing Palestinians.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
39650 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:41 pm to
Russia has unreasonable demands- oh they're just negotiating and starting high

Zelensky has unreasonable demands- he just needs to shut up and settle and surrender.


The bias on here is weird.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
2936 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:43 pm to
Well that ain’t happening. Time for EU mothers to send their sons off to die in Ukraine.

Slava Ukraine right?

We stand 100% behind Ukraine right?

Somehow I don’t think this is gonna be true.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2204 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:44 pm to
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SirWinston


Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3345 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:45 pm to
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Russia has unreasonable demands- oh they're just negotiating and starting high

Zelensky has unreasonable demands- he just needs to shut up and settle and surrender.


The bias on here is weird.


One has a strong starting point, the other needs daddy to fund them to maintain. They are not the same.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2204 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:46 pm to
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Why then is every Slava Ukraine person an ardent neoconservative or neoliberal...

Exaggerator.
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Sovereignty means nothing to you unless a country than your own violates it.

Liar.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
39650 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:47 pm to
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One has a strong starting point, the other needs daddy to fund them to maintain. They are not the same.

So you're diplomatic recommendation to Ukraine is just accept whatever Russia offers and don't negotiate or try to?
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
1885 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:49 pm to
Idiot
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3345 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:51 pm to
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So you're diplomatic recommendation to Ukraine is just accept whatever Russia offers and don't negotiate or try to?



DId I say that? I am saying Ukraine is fricked likely and needs to realize they are in a weak position. It does not mean they won't get tiny concessions. but i expect very little land to exchange hands.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4330 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:54 pm to
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deeprig9


Great take on the situation.

You should have used lube last night.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7040 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:56 pm to
Zelensky is a stupid little bitch.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9894 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:01 pm to
Trump needs to announce a peace deal is not attainable.

Us is cutting off all aid to Ukraine since they are not willing to negotiate in good faith. If they want war, they can go it alone.

Trump needs to announce he is lifting all sanctions on Russia and asks other countries to do the same and he is looking to economic opportunities between the US and Russia.

Russia should immediately cut all railways between Europe and Ukraine. Especially from Poland.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97174 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:30 pm to
frick that cokehead midget
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33245 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:35 pm to
He must have read Trump's Art of the Deal Ask for ridiculously more than what you would be happy accepting.
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1108 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:36 pm to
So, he's losing a war and his ask is for more territory than he had before the war began? This guy is obviously coked to the gills.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9556 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:37 pm to
frick em YOYO.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8352 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:46 pm to
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So you're diplomatic recommendation to Ukraine is just accept whatever Russia offers and don't negotiate or try to?


If Ukraine can support themself, then have it with whatever negotiation tactic they want.

However, without US support, this war would have been over and Ukraine would be much less of a country, if a country at all, by now.

It is in Ukraine's best interest to cut losses and salvage whatever they can right now.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2289 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:48 pm to
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With that said, it sucks so bad for UKR citizens.


Are you sure that they would even notice?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2204 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:54 pm to
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the other needs daddy to fund them to maintain

Much like we needed the French in our struggle against King George III's superpower.

Thank God Washington didn't have to put up with surrender monkeys like y'all.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
5913 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:14 pm to
This part of negotiating. He learned it from Trump.
He knows that wont be agreed too but he has to.maintain the support of his people.
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