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re: Your new Secretary of HHS has some wise words for you…

Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:31 am to
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13407 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:31 am to
I have literally no notes/edits for this post. Nailed it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:31 am to
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No one is forcing you to eat Cap’N Crunch.


The extreme shift in this board from libertarian-ish around the "Tea Party" to full on fricking Nanny State leftism has been a sad development to see.

Leftist economics

Leftist arguments to expand regulations to promote the nanny state

What's next?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66659 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:35 am to
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There is no doubt in my mind if Obama had nominated RFK, Jr. for some appointed post, or, if a Democrat appointed head of HHS proposed banning many everyday common foods in grocery stores, the cult worshipers on here would have gone to DefCon 1 in their outrage.


No doubt. Politico called him a "rock star" appointment for Obama in 2008. I will say, if he had endorsed Kamala when he withdrew, the media would have fawned over how he brought the Kennedy name back to its roots. They probably would have also said while he has some unorthodox theories, he is overall a champion for public health.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9271 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:41 am to
Super easy for him to start. Immediately work with the USDA to ban the purchase of all of these items through SNAP.

That will put a huge dent in those companies pockets and force them to change.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
3310 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:45 am to
You know youre on the wrong side of this if SFP has your back.
He wants to ban poisonous ingredients and poisonous additives from being approved by our government agencies that are supposed to make sure poison stays out of our food.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133596 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:56 am to
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You know youre on the wrong side of this if SFP has your back.
Nah, that's where you and I are different. I don't look at a poster's name and assume everything he posts is wrong.

With the exception of Lester Earl...

I may disagree with someone 75% of the time but that means I agree with him 25% of the time.

I use my own experiences and education to determine what my opinions are and not just let what someone else thinks determine how I believe.

That would be very lazy, IMO.

I'm reminded of one of my old bosses who once proposed a change in company policy and was asking his division heads to opine on his proposal. I thought the proposal was a bad idea and spoke up to say so and ended my disagreement with an apology for disagreeing with the boss.

He looked at me and said, "If you and I agree with each other 100% of the time then one of us isn't needed." I've lived by that principle...
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19123 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:00 am to
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I'm tired of high-fructose corn syrup being used instead of sugar.

Mexican Coke and Dublin Dr. Pepper FTW.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10526 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:29 am to
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HFCs is fricking horrible for the body. As I said previously unlike sucrose it can only be metabolized in the liver and furthermore the body shuts down all metabolic processes to metabolize it. Fructose and Sucrose are both sugars but the human body does not treat them as equals.


This is flat out wrong

Sucrose is made of Gluctose and fructose. Have you ever taken a chemistry class?

There is little to no difference in how your body processes HFCS and Sugar.

I say that as someone who comes from a family that owns sugar mills
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85871 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:43 am to
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There is no doubt in my mind if Obama had nominated RFK, Jr. for some appointed post, or, if a Democrat appointed head of HHS proposed banning many everyday common foods in grocery stores, the cult worshipers on here would have gone to DefCon 1 in their outrage.


Plenty of people have complained our tax dollars go to buying poor people junk food. This isn’t a new thing.




Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9665 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:04 am to
biden did a fine job reducing the amount of junk food consumed, really...

A box of cereal now holds 45 % the volume. Chips, candy, all have been reduced in like fashion. Thats measurable progress
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
1807 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:04 pm to
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Why do I suspect you’re in the corn industry?

Don't use ad hominems if you want a serious exchange, it just makes your stance seem weak.

But to answer your question, I'm against corn ethanol, OK?

quote:

HFCs is fricking horrible for the body. As I said previously unlike sucrose it can only be metabolized in the liver and furthermore the body shuts down all metabolic processes to metabolize it. Fructose and Sucrose are both sugars but the human body does not treat them as equals.

So are we banning honey?

People need to learn to eat healthy. I don't take in a lot of sugar, so I don't worry about some HFCS in my ketchup - I don't eat cups of it. I use Peanut butter with no added sugar, drink only dry wines, and on and on.

People should cut down on sugary drinks, and sugar filled snacks/foods, regardless the kind of sugar. And so on.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296568 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:07 pm to
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There is no doubt in my mind if Obama had nominated RFK, Jr. for some appointed post, or, if a Democrat appointed head of HHS proposed banning many everyday common foods in grocery stores, the cult worshipers on here would have gone to DefCon 1 in their outrage.


100%

I have zero trust in govt to do this without fricking it up. The power we celebrate today is used against us in 4 years.

Posted by mtopdawg421
Middle GA
Member since Aug 2017
1249 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:15 pm to
Protect that man!

I don't agree with everything says, but RFK seems genuine.

And I'm all for better quality food. We've been shat on for too long by these corporations when it comes to food. They'll have healthier stuff for other countries and give us the bullcrap.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:40 am to
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If you equate preventing rat poison from being in food to banning Capt Crunch cereal and grape juice you may have just won the Dumbest Poster of the Year Award.


I had a feeling you'd respond with a comment like that one. What do you suppose the point was that I was making? You don't want to be poisoned, correct? You know what rat poison is, so it grabs your attention. You would be appalled to know it's in your food. So you're fine with that being banned. But something that, when eaten over and over again, causes all sorts of problems, is put in your food, you don't want it banned because you don't know what it is and you're addicted to eating that food already. Sound about right?

So whether or not YOU are ok with being slowly poisoned, does not mean it shouldn't be banned. And you also must not have watched the video, or didn't pay close enough attention, because he said the chemicals used for the dye that colors things (like captain crunch) does not even affect the taste. So they could ban those particular chemicals and you could still have your cereal, with the same taste, just a different appearance... What a sacrifice.

I've had a lot of people in my life die from cancer. My dad tried to do everything right, and still he got that disease. What they put in our food, that they count on us not knowing what it is, or what it does, is a big reason why this happens. So yeah, it matters to me, and it matters to a lot of people. This isn't some arbitrary move to restrict freedom eating choice. There are lots of unhealthy things that aren't necessarily poison. Things that are poisonous should not be legal to put in food, period.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:57 am to
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100%

I have zero trust in govt to do this without fricking it up. The power we celebrate today is used against us in 4 years.



They want to ban poisonous ingredients, not random food because it isn't avocados and grapes. If you can ban ANY poison from being in food, why not all? You can have a sugary, chocolatey, whatever, without eating chemicals dyes, can you not?

The is government overreach, and then there is common sense. Some of you sound like you'd prefer anarchy, where we have so much "liberty" that we have no laws at all. Oh but I know you don't really feel that way. You want laws where it makes sense. But somehow, banning poison from our food isn't common sense. Do you not realize that this is exactly what it looks like to be "conditioned"? Cancer cases are WAY up, yet people don't smoke like they used to, and we supposedly have such advanced medicine now. What gives? I don't know, could it be that crap we've been eating for decades while being told it's perfectly fine?

You know RFK isn't the one who discovered this problem right? I've heard about this for years from people who are much more qualified than any person in this thread. RFK is simply showing the guts to say it out loud in front of the nation.

Making the argument that the other poster made that if Obama had appointed him we'd all be going nuts might sound good on it's face, if given no further thought whatsoever. Do you think Obama would appoint someone who wants to ban chemicals in food? Would RFK agree to work with Trump if he wanted to push an Obama agenda? There's a reason the democrats pushed him out. He may not be a conservative, but he's also not one of them. Last I checked, Trump used to be a democrat, as well. But then he realized that they were nuts.

But we can't possibly believe that RFK has realized the same thing? Not saying we have to agree with him on everything. But he's right about this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296568 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:44 am to
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They want to ban poisonous ingredients,


Good luck with that.

It will become a massive crony opportunity and you will not win.

You trust government WAY too much.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93462 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:45 am to
Dont ban poison chemicals in food! - SFP and rogerthecucker

The geniusues of the poli
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296568 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:46 am to
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Dont ban poison chemicals in food! - SFP and rogerthecucker


Thats exactly how progressives argue
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93462 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:48 am to
Sorry you dont like the truth. Most kommies dont
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296568 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:49 am to
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from being approved by our government
When did you needy folks start trusting BigGov to make your life better?

Yalls transformation from even 4 years ago is astounding.

Did you know Covid lockdowns and vaccines were also "for the good of society?


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