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Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:11 am to CollegeFBRules
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This doesn’t say anything other than Trump is changing shite just to change it. There is no substance to support why Trump is doing this, he’s just doing it because “change.”
I thought it was a well thought out opinion piece, a the author offers an opposing view with a link at the end of the article. In a world of random opinions on the internet, this one is at least well presented
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but your 30 or 40 year retirement account you worked your arse off for that now looks very different because we had to kick ourselves in our own dick.
This line of reasoning shifts the blame of individual investment decisions to market forces. Clearly an emotional response. The market is risky and not guaranteed. Get your money out of the market if you are near retirement. This really shouldn’t need to be discussed.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 10:23 am
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:13 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:Bought new golf clubs before the world collapsed, only 55 here and windy, guess I might take a day off later in the week.
I wanted to take my boat out this morning but the weather sucks.
See if I can lose some Pro Vs
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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The problem MAGA/Trumpism is going to face is that their decision to double down and cater to the uneducated/working class means they have to fully commit to catering to the working class.
The working class HATES the educated/professional class. Just read the messaging in the OP.
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“Who is the status quo not working for?” some of you will ask me from your Porsche, driving down PCH, or from your desk overseeing your millions in the market.
This class warfare only works one way, and the educated/professional class can only pretend so long to be baw-adjacent, outside of some extreme examples (like SFP, but we won't go there). At scale, it cannot work. Labor and management do not co-exist on the same planet.
As Bunk pointed out, MAGA is shifting from Libertarian MAGA to baw MAGA. The question is if they can ever pivot back, at this point.
This is a solid, coherent post, that despite this board's clit stroking hatred for you, they should be able to understand.
MAGA has shifted hard. Real hard.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
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My theory that MAGA members do zero research
Are you suggesting that Trump didn’t implement that plan?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:14 am to Flats
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The rest is repeating the arguments I've seen here: we needed change, this is change, therefore this is positive. But you can always make things worse with the wrong sort of change.
And you can always make things worse by accepting the status quo over fear of the unknown. Both edges are sharp
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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The problem MAGA/Trumpism is going to face is that their decision to double down and cater to the uneducated/working class means they have to fully commit to catering to the working class.
Why do you hate the working class?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:21 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:Because the market had a pullback? J/c CFBR, what odds would you place on the market being higher next Jan than it was this Jan?
Anyone thinking about retiring just got told by Trump and the market you can kick that plan down the road
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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Trying to conflate the 2 as one issue is dishonest.
Like it or not, they are tied together. Our economy is an overinflated balloon that everybody knew was going to pop. Whether it is stuck with a pin, or shot with a BB gun, the pop is coming.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:23 am to CollegeFBRules
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Anyone thinking about retiring just got told by Trump and the market you can kick that plan down the road, because the economy that you built your retirement on doesn’t work.
People nearing retirement should not be exposing themselves to market swings.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:25 am to jimmy the leg
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Are you suggesting that Trump didn’t implement that plan?
Not just suggesting.
When he brought out that chart, do you think he was lying to you or just ignorant?
I think he had no clue what they prepared for him and so now we're stuck with this idiotic table of tariffs that make sense to no one.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:28 am to Flats
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The rest is repeating the arguments I've seen here: we needed change, this is change, therefore this is positive.
Positive? That is unknown.
I am against this policy long term.
I am for the threat of it being long term though.
Tariffs being levied against our companies to the degree that they are is unacceptable to me.
Don’t call it “free trade” if the deck is stacked against us.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Not just suggesting.
So Trump didn’t implement a plan to invest in poor communities?
Okay.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:32 am to NC_Tigah
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Because the market had a pullback? J/c CFBR, what odds would you place on the market being higher next Jan than it was this Jan?
Brother, no one here is even sure what the end game to these tariffs is. Are we servicing debt or balancing world trade. That’s the problem, if you can’t pin in, the uncertainty is problematic, and that’s the best way to put it.
Do I think it likely the market will be better in a year? I hope. I’m conditioned to believe it will be, but not even Trump’s most ardent supporters on this board have an idea on what he is really trying to do here.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:34 am to jimmy the leg
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So Trump didn’t implement a plan to invest in poor communities?
Probably some intern who works there after her lunch break.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:37 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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People nearing retirement should not be exposing themselves to market swings.
At what point should someone completely divest themselves and hide in cash then? Because who can plan for liberation day and 3000 points gone in two marker sessions?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:07 am to CollegeFBRules
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At what point should someone completely divest themselves and hide in cash then? Because who can plan for liberation day and 3000 points gone in two marker sessions?
There's nowhere to hide. The last 25 years of monetary and fiscal insanity (bordering on malevolence) made that a guaranteed fact. Who can plan for hyperinflation, or a collapse of the banking system, or the bond market, or the social order? A 10% drop in equity markets doesn't even register on the scale of trouble baked into this cake.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 11:08 am
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:22 am to Hangit
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Like it or not, they are tied together. Our economy is an overinflated balloon that everybody knew was going to pop. Whether it is stuck with a pin, or shot with a BB gun, the pop is coming.
Or if the air supply was simply cutoff…one way or another it was going to pop. It was propped up by inflation and the monetary policies that were and still are driving them.
Those most critical on this board of Trump in this situation are admittedly on a political island - they didn’t support either candidate, but will proudly tell you they are more conservative than you. They remain insulated from defending actual policy, because they have no representation in power that support their theoretical political philosophy. But make no mistake, there aren’t any traditionally conservative approaches that would deal with the situation we find ourselves in that would not lead to pain.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I think he had no clue what they prepared for him and so now we're stuck with this idiotic table of tariffs that make sense to no one.
We are not stuck. It should not be a surprise to anyone that Trump likes to negotiate and make deals. You can question what he is negotiating for all you want, but I don’t think there is any question that introducing these tariffs are a negotiation strategy or simply posturing.
Criticize him all you want for any actual fallout that comes from this, but we are only getting started here.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:58 am to wdhalgren
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ere's the equivalent of what you said above. We should all buy our groceries using a fancy credit card with a 4% rebate. Then we'll reinvest that "savings" into the productive areas of our economy and it'll be a positive and will help the US have a dominant world economy.
That is not, in fact, the equivalent of my argument
That is a literal straw man.
An actual equivalent of my argument is that we should make tech more expensive so fewer people purchase is (shrinking the tech industry) so that we can have rubber dog shite factories so the unproductive have jobs.
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