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Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:55 pm to Purplehaze
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Well I am 74 my position for years has been to remove all of the income limits. Let everyone pay in the full 7.65%. Allow for drug price negotiation. When it becomes time to collect, implement a resource test. If you have liquid financial resources over $2 million then you are ineligible for SS but eligible for Medicaire.
As for Congress, eliminate that cushy retirement plan and shift them all over to Social Security.
Also any "borrowing" from the SS fund menas the $$$ are replaiced with US bonds at double the bond interst rate.
Taking off the income limit for Social Security and Medicare taxes has been rumored for a long time but so far they've held off.
When you consider the percentage of income paid by the average middle class household in Social Security and Medicare taxes it's a pretty big chunk of their income....so it's definitely the middle class that's paying the bulk of social security and Medicare taxes.
The other option I've heard talked about is to means test Social Security and Medicare based on total net worth, not sure what that would look like but I could definitely see the government doing something like means testing.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:13 pm to CamdenTiger
They been saying it would run out of money for 40 years. You want to see a Revolution, do away with it without giving people their money back while paying for wars, illegals and welfare.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:31 pm to NC_Tigah
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Well David, #1) I'm going to have to ask for a link to that jewel
jjdoc is the one that brought us that. He provided links and he was right. He actually thought it was a feather in the MAGA hat because, like so many on the Trump bandwagon, he was okay with big government and views the national debt like normal do aliens.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 3:08 pm to David_DJS
quote:So I really don't care who found what, jjdoc, you, someone else. Macht nichts. You made a claim though. Is there a link or not?
Well David, #1) I'm going to have to ask for a link to that jewel
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jjdoc is the one that brought us that.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 3:10 pm to TrueTiger
Sure wish I could manage my own damn money instead of putting it in this cluster frick.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 3:19 pm to NC_Tigah
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You made a claim though. Is there a link or not?
Dude, you google as well as anybody. I didn't think it was necessary to lead you to it, but here you go -
But President Trump made clear in an Aug. 12 news conference that his real goal is to replace the Social Security payroll tax with revenues drawn from the general tax fund, the vast majority of which is income taxes.
Weird that Trump supporters are unaware of his plan to fund social security benefits from the general fund
Posted on 1/9/24 at 3:45 pm to Padme
quote:Don't worry they are killing of many more via side effects of the jab.... Myocarditis, strokes, turbo cancer are going to really bring down the population. Plus no more babies from the vaxxed.
Well in all fairness, the government tried to reform ssn via Covid. They weren’t quite as efficient as desired in killing off the seniors, but they did try.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 3:53 pm to Bass Tiger
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The other option I've heard talked about is to means test Social Security and Medicare based on total net worth, not sure what that would look like but I could definitely see the government doing something like means testing.
Believe me it is means tested. I pay a higher premium to medicare because I have higher annual income.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:13 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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The other option I've heard talked about is to means test Social Security and Medicare based on total net worth, not sure what that would look like but I could definitely see the government doing something like means testing.
Believe me it is means tested. I pay a higher premium to medicare because I have higher annual income.
When I speak of "means testing" the one I've heard mentioned before is "means testing" at retirement age.....total net worth would factor into Social Security and Medicare monthly checks.
I could see the government making some type of net worth brackets where the highest bracket is $0.00 benefits.
This^^^ is why I keep saying just cut my household a check for $2 million for the Social Security and Medicare taxes I've paid over +45 years and I'll call it done.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:30 pm to CamdenTiger
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The young Generations will never see a cent they are paying into this system,
Yes they will.
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it’s broke in a few years, and the choices to save the system, at that point will be to print( and watch inflation skyrocket) , or raise taxes even more, and continue to Ponzi scheme can kicking….for only a few more years. Which means anyone in their 20’s and 30’s will never probably see a cent of that money…
You have no clue how Social security works and have bought in to the fear mongering from both parties.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:38 pm to Lawyered
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retirement is a pipe dream to them in that age bracket
I had a coworker who believed that retirement was a fluke in social engineering. It never existed before in the history of man and it will go away once again, forcing people to work practically up until death.
He may be right if SSI collapses.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:41 pm to Bass Tiger
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When I speak of "means testing" the one I've heard mentioned before is "means testing" at retirement age.....total net worth would factor into Social Security and Medicare monthly checks.
Yeah whatever. In fifteen years or so I'll be gone and somebody will get my money. In the meantime I'll just keep getting this checks.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:44 pm to TrueTiger
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Social Security isn't sustainable.
Maybe the kids understand math better than many thought.
The math is simple. Stop spending so much on SS money or stop spending money that is supposed to be allocated for SS.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:53 pm to David_DJS
quote:I do.
Dude, you google as well as anybody
Which was why I asked the question.
Your link is to an Opinion piece claiming to represent Trump quotes without ever actually quoting Trump.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:58 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Because payouts would have to increase accordingly.
Taking off the income limit for Social Security and Medicare taxes has been rumored for a long time but so far they've held off.
quote:... and it's definitely the middle class that's receiving the bulk of social security and Medicare "benefits"
so it's definitely the middle class that's paying the bulk of social security and Medicare taxes.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:10 pm to TrueTiger
Well, if the younger generations don’t want Social Security benefits when they want to retire, then they had better start saving some retirement money on their own. Many young people don’t care a flip about saving money for the future. They will be in for a rude awakening.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:50 pm to TrueTiger
Gotta love how SS and Medicare are going broke, yet Congressional retirements and healthcare plans are still solvent. Let's shite on seniors that have paid into SS and Medicare for years and are nearing retirement age, and let's shite on our veterans as well. Their pensions and VA healthcare is some of the worst, but yet we support and re-elect congressional members without fail that feed at the government trough.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:58 pm to boudinman
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Gotta love how SS and Medicare are going broke, yet Congressional retirements and healthcare plans are still solvent. Let's shite on seniors that have paid into SS and Medicare for years and are nearing retirement age, and let's shite on our veterans as well. Their pensions and VA healthcare is some of the worst, but yet we support and re-elect congressional members without fail that feed at the government trough.
US taxpayers have been funding the pensions of Ukrainian government workers. The US is $34 trillion in debt and Social Security and Medicare are underfunded, I would like a line item audit of where that $34 trillion went.
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