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re: You are either for freedom or tyranny. There is no middle ground.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:51 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:51 am to Mickey Goldmill
Then you can live free in Louisiana
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:52 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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There is little (no?) room in your simplistic formulation for a social compact. Is there room for anything but anarchy? If a majority of citizens vote for speed limits but you, in good conscience, disagree, is there room in your system for the majority to compel you to pay a fine?
Speed limits and medical mandates that impact a person's one and only body are two very different things. You are being duplicitous.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:52 am to Mickey Goldmill
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You do realize even in very red/blue states, there are still huge numbers of the opposite side living there, right?
Fine. All of you blue dipshits have 30 days to get out of Florida.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:54 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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Is there room for anything but anarchy? If a majority of citizens vote for speed limits but you, in good conscience, disagree, is there room in your system for the majority to compel you to pay a fine?
Why do we need speed limits? If none existed would you take a curve at 120? Or maybe you think others would because they're not as smart as you.
When a power outage causes the traffic light at a busy intersection to go out and the cops haven't arrived why don't cars go crashing into each other?
Anarchy =/= chaos.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:55 am to BamaCoaster
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Debt is the ultimate cause of slavery.
Some is forced like, paying taxes on a property that is paid in full.
You never own your property.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:06 am to Zach
"When a power outage causes the traffic light at a busy intersection to go out and the cops haven't arrived why don't cars go crashing into each other?
Anarchy =/= chaos."
Fair point that anarchy does not necessarily result in chaos, but your example hits home. First, cars can and do crash into each in this situation when the power goes out. Where I live this happens frequently. But what's more interesting is what you point out: it doesn't happen all the time because people can generally navigate the situation on their own (although heaven forbid you show city folk a flashing yellow
). However, there is one thing you can bank on: when the power goes out and creates an impromptu 4-way stop at a busy intersection, traffic snarls. Every time. Is is chaos? No. But is it orderly and efficient? No, it's not that either.
Anarchy =/= chaos."
Fair point that anarchy does not necessarily result in chaos, but your example hits home. First, cars can and do crash into each in this situation when the power goes out. Where I live this happens frequently. But what's more interesting is what you point out: it doesn't happen all the time because people can generally navigate the situation on their own (although heaven forbid you show city folk a flashing yellow
). However, there is one thing you can bank on: when the power goes out and creates an impromptu 4-way stop at a busy intersection, traffic snarls. Every time. Is is chaos? No. But is it orderly and efficient? No, it's not that either. Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:31 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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Every time. Is is chaos? No. But is it orderly and efficient? No, it's not that either.
Fair points. But some of our experience difference may be due to location. The outages here in Shreveport/Bossier never cause problems because it's always weather driven and people drive carefully in bad weather anyway.
OTOH, since you're in New Orleans you probably see traffic snarls when the weather is great and the lights are working.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:08 pm to Landmass
I would be one of the ones that would chance a great great reset but not the kind in the news now . I would have one that swung the opposite way and create a more conservative nationalist one
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:09 pm to Landmass
Quanah no want to where clothes in public.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:14 pm to Landmass
You must hate George Washington for mandating vaccines against smallpox, he was a tyrant!
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:36 pm to Diamondawg
That’s on the “bad” side now, every time.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:03 pm to Craig86
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You must hate George Washington for mandating vaccines against smallpox, he was a tyrant!
- He was the commander of an army
- It was only for troops under his command during an active war in which the British used smallpox as a weapon
- It was variolation not vaccination
- He only mandated this for new recruits so that they could get sick before being war ready
- Smallpox risk >>>>>> covid-19 risk
- Small pox variolation used a natural infection method and not messenger RNA technology
That being said, yes, it was still a tyrannical rule but the benefit far outweighed the risk since the British were using smallpox as a biological weapon. People are not perfect but tyranny is tyranny.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:35 pm to Landmass
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You are either for freedom or tyranny.
For a second there I thought the title said You are either for freedom or a tranny. I guess that works too
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:07 am to thermal9221
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I need to know what you think the USA will be like in 10-15 years.
Dems are trying to bring the hood to the suburbs. I blame suburban housewives for being idiots and voting Biden. As rude as this sounds if women didn’t have the right to vote our country would be in much better shape. They vote using emotion and many are one issue voters.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:10 am to Landmass
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:19 am to Diamondawg
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Common sense and not taking unnecessary risks is pretty much in the middle.
Common sense and not taking unnecessary risks constitute the Aristotelian Mean between absolute freedom and tyranny?
No. That doesn't even begin to make sense. Freedom allows one to assess his own risks and use or not use common sense, within the bounds of the written rule of law (which on the case of the US Constitution is still grounded in liberty). Those aren't anything in and of themselves.
And, "unnecessary risks" begs the question as to what is "necessary." Who determines that? The state? Similarly, "common sense" can be to the uncommon minority an abomination. It was once "common sense" that people can be chattel.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 9:35 am
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:21 am to Mickey Goldmill
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You do realize even in very red/blue states, there are still huge numbers of the opposite side living there, right?
I genuinely think that some here don’t understand this.
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