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re: Yesterday, the FBI showed up at the home of a Trump supporter in California. Video in link
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It is when you try to paint the smaller, less significant group as more powerful/dangerous
Jurisdiction?
Federal investigative powers.
Elected leadership.
This is, again, pure emotional thinking on your part.
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:40 pm to Wishing Well
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That still doesn't mean cops are any better
That has zip to do with the question.
SFP claims that your local law as a collective identity with all other agencies is more powerful than the FBI.
Its fricking retarded.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Look at all the black males (Democrats) in jail.
Wow. Look at WHERE those crimes are being committed.
Disingenuous contrarian bullshite.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:40 pm to moneyg
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This is, again, pure emotional thinking on your part.
He is getting very emotional lately.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's not
You think raiding DJT, Roger Stone, and non-violent J6ers is not political bias? You think Peter Strzok and Lisa Page didn't want to take down Trump when they admitted to it in texts? Or when Stzrok kept the Flynn investigation open after field agents wanted to close it?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's not
Ok.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I think they view the fbi as politically biased.
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It's not
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:42 pm to moneyg
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This is, again, pure emotional thinking on your part.
Emotional? How is stating facts emotional?
There are literally exponentially more local/state LEOs and states have more expansive policing powers, Constitutionally.
If you want an easy comparison to compare power, compare the number of defendants housed in state/local prison facilities compared to the federal system.
LEO is LEO. The same issues are found at every level. My position is consistent by making it about LEO and our Constitution.
Trying to segregate one group out , especially for in/out group dynamics or partisanship, shows major hypocrisy.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He is getting very emotional lately.
He’s always been that way.
He works right to left from his emotional truth on every topic.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:44 pm to L.A.
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the FBI should be abolished.
There is a need for the FBI just like the need for police.
There is high level corruption at the top.
There needs to be a mutiny within. Culture change.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Emotional? How is stating facts emotional?
Your "fact" was pure emotional bs.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:45 pm to Bunk Moreland
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You think raiding DJT, Roger Stone, and non-violent J6ers is not political bias? You think Peter Strzok and Lisa Page didn't want to take down Trump when they admitted to it in texts? Or when Stzrok kept the Flynn investigation open after field agents wanted to close it?
We've only seen one side investigated. They're all drunk with power b/c they have too much of it.
The baws who did Ruby Ridge and WACO weren't some limp-wristed liberals. Were they political then? Or the whole "War on Terror" era.
The "political" aspect is the power they feel over everyone outside of their chosen grouping (LEO). If you want to make LEO political, that's how it's political.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:45 pm to moneyg
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He works right to left from his emotional truth on every topic.
Show me one "emotional" post ITT
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:45 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Local are usually better because they’re grounded in the communities they’re policing.
As well as they are elected (Sheriffs at least) not some appointed bureaucrat.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Emotional? How is stating facts emotional?
You just said the fbi wasn’t political. That’s not a fact, it’s your opinion. And it’s wrong.
You have that opinion because you are emotional about the topic.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Sure. I don't disagree.
They aren't jailed b/c of their political association, race, etc.
I apply the same arguments across the board, like Trump, the J6ers, Rudy, etc.
This is the error in your thinking. I cannot come up with any examples of local selective enforcement on the basis of political association (although there must be some), but the selective enforcement and pollicization of the majority of J6'ers and the obsessive "Get Trump" brigade is obvious to anyone who looks at it without lying to themselves.
If you are not with the uniParty you eventually will find yourself getting the same treatment. It will happen to you or those you care about. It must be stopped at all costs or this country is lost (if it already isn't). I am old and have seen this movie before. The US is not magically immune to becoming a totalitarian state and this is just the beginning if immediate steps are not taken. Too many people see no problem with the politicization of government bureaucracies, intelligence and law enforcement agencies, and the judicial system because it fits their personal narrative and viewpoints. They cannot even see it happening and they are blind to it because in their twisted viewpoint it is the seemingly righteous result of what they are told is illegal, criminal behavior on the part of their political opponents.
This is the most dangerous threat to the continuation of our Republic that has occured since the Civil War. I say this without hyperbole. You can continue to believe what you want and make the false equivalencies that preserve your worldview or you can open your eyes and see that this country is rotting from the inside.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:47 pm to thermal9221
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There is a need for the FBI just like the need for police.
They run a nice crime lab, for sure.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:47 pm to Cuz413
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As well as they are elected (Sheriffs at least) not some appointed bureaucrat.
The tyranny of the majority is not an excuse.
Republicans (as the minority party) should know this by now.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:48 pm to moneyg
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You just said the fbi wasn’t political.
For the sake of this digression, we can assume that's wrong. Still not emotional.
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That’s not a fact, it’s your opinion.
This is true
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And it’s wrong.
For the purposes of this hypothetical, sure.
Still not emotional.
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You have that opinion because you are emotional about the topic.
And there is that leap of logic
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If you want an easy comparison to compare power, compare the number of defendants housed in state/local prison facilities compared to the federal system.
This is ridiculously over simplistic analysis.
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