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re: Yesterday, the FBI showed up at the home of a Trump supporter in California. Video in link

Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27695 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:12 pm to
Maybe they do things differently in CA and Sacramento. But every time I have encountered FBI they are not dressed so casually. If they are coming on official, non arrest business they are in suits.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19378 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:13 pm to
Local are usually better because they’re grounded in the communities they’re policing.
Posted by TheHumanTornado
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2008
3773 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:14 pm to
I love going to this board and finding the comments with the most downvotes. It is where I find the most logic.
Posted by lazlodawg
Member since Sep 2017
482 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:16 pm to
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So like Trump, the J6ers, Rudy, etc?

Right?


Are you now suggesting there are not some black people in jail who did not commit the crimes they are accused of? (If you cannot understand why I wrote this comment, it's because you are stupid).

Generally speaking, black males are responsible for a majority of violent crimes. Specifically speaking there are certainly people, including blacks, who are accused and jailed for crimes they did not commit. What exactly is your point? That local law enforcement selective enforcement or wrongful enforcement is of more concern than the full pollicization of federal agencies? That it occurs more often? Another lie. I can point to hundreds of recent examples of selective enforcement just in your quote above.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261355 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Local are usually better because they’re grounded in the communities they’re policing.


Most of our enforceable criminal laws are state/local. It seems like common sense that they would be enforced by people educated to those rules.

Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5033 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Look at all the black males (Democrats) in jail.


Yeah, they're in jail here in Montgomery, Alabama too. With a majority black police force, a black city police leadership, black, democrat mayor and majority black city council.

So if a political party is responsible, it's not white republicans and you're full of shite as usual.

Differentiate the authority, reach, power and difficulty in prosecuting a standard LEO with an FBI agent. If you don't admit there's a significant difference, you're just trolling.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58137 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Oh so you're saying a group can commit a disproportionate amount of crimes not based in their partisan alliances?



I don’t know all the factors that make black males commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes, but it’s fact.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261355 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:20 pm to
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I love going to this board and finding the comments with the most downvotes. It is where I find the most logic.


As a leftist, you would.

Hes making your arguments for you. SFP is your board token.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 12:22 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56656 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Further into the Twitter comments quote:There have been several videos lately with fake-FBI agents showing up to talk to conservatives about their posts. These are definitely all staged.


I have no personal knowledge about whether this was staged.

But your post shows how willing people are to accept an unverified statement based on what they want the truth to be.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423315 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Generally speaking, black males are responsible for a majority of violent crimes.

Sure. I don't disagree.

They aren't jailed b/c of their political association, race, etc.

I apply the same arguments across the board, like Trump, the J6ers, Rudy, etc.

Groups who commit more crimes get prosecuted more often.

quote:

That local law enforcement selective enforcement or wrongful enforcement is of more concern than the full pollicization of federal agencies?

That is true, but not my specific argument ITT, other than to stop people trying to qualify the good/bad LEO based on perceive in/out group dynamics and partisanship.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18346 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Look at all the black males (Democrats) in jail.


13% of the population commits 55.9% of all homicides.

Why is that?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56656 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Because if they do, why are those motivations limited to just the FBI?


I don’t think that’s the point.

The point is the massive power of the federal government makes it more of a threat.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2477 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Funny how Trump convinced
Defunding the police is a good thing
Orange world is always upside down


Jesus Christ you need to get help for your TDS, bro. Wow.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423315 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

13% of the population commits 55.9% of all homicides.

Why is that?

Lots of reasons, none of which excuse the behavior.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101630 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

I apply the same arguments across the board, like Trump, the J6ers, Rudy, etc.

Groups who commit more crimes get prosecuted more often.



So, you think Republicans are more predisposed to committing political crimes?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423315 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:24 pm to
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The point is the massive power of the federal government makes it more of a threat.

the total power of local LEO dwarfs the FBI by a significant factor
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2477 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:25 pm to
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No he doesn’t. He’s just here to do his usual “the government would never do this you’re just being a paranoid MAGA extremist” shtick


Nailed it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423315 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

So, you think Republicans are more predisposed to committing political crimes?

Too broad.

Republicans were more likely to commit crimes in response to losing the 2020 Presidential election.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261355 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:27 pm to
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the total power of local LEO dwarfs the FBI by a significant factor



No one is subject to the "total power of LEO" How the frick did you even conceive that?

Goddamn you say some stupid shite.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101630 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Too broad.

Republicans were more likely to commit crimes in response to losing the 2020 Presidential election.


Well, can you point to where you think it evens out then?
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