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re: Yesterday, the FBI showed up at the home of a Trump supporter in California. Video in link

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:50 pm to
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but the selective enforcement and pollicization of the majority of J6'ers

Did they break the law? Yes or no?

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If you are not with the uniParty you eventually will find yourself getting the same treatment. It will happen to you or those you care about. It must be stopped at all costs or this country is lost (if it already isn't). I am old and have seen this movie before. The US is not magically immune to becoming a totalitarian state


You know how to prevent all of this?

Decrease police power, Prescence, and intrusion into our lives. All of it.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:50 pm to
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We have too much redundancy already.



FBI, CIA, ATF, DEA, US Marshall, Secret Service, IRS, hell even the Post office has a unit to fight the 'bad guys' and 'keep us safe'.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:51 pm to
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This is ridiculously over simplistic analysis.

It's a starting point. You've shown you need it.

Who has more prisoners: state or federal prosecuting agencies?
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:52 pm to
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For the sake of this digression, we can assume that's wrong. Still not emotional




It is certainly emotional. That you believed it was a fact is evidence.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:53 pm to
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This is ridiculously over simplistic analysis.

It's a starting point.


"it started a conversation."

Youve learned well.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:53 pm to
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It is certainly emotional.

This isn't like bankruptcy. You don't get to just declare it.

You haven't made any logical arguments to back this point up.

My motivations are for protecting the constitution and our individual rights. Please explain how that is an emotional stance.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:55 pm to
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It's a starting point


It’s a false premise that is easily rejected.

You do that a lot with your emotional argumentative style.

Instead of approaching a topic fairly you build a false premise and try to argue based off of it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:56 pm to
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If you want an easy comparison to compare power, compare the number of defendants housed in state/local prison facilities compared to the federal system.
Better comparison... check the conviction rates. Even better, compare the cost of mounting a defense to charges.

I cannot imagine hiring a defense attorney that thinks the government is awesome and fair.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:56 pm to
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It’s a false premise that is easily rejected.

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moneyGoebbels


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:58 pm to
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Instead of approaching a topic fairly you build a false premise and try to argue based off of it.


My comments are the same as they've been for 10+ years.

We are over policed and we have too many criminal laws and those laws are almost always too draconian in nature.

Your argument is that by me only limiting that argument to the FBI, and ignoring the exponentially higher rate and cases of LEO abuse at the state and local level, would that become "fair"

How?

You don't think that stance may be primed a bit by recent events from the echo chamber? Just maybe?
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:58 pm to
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"it started a conversation."
Was AggieHank an SFP alter?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:58 pm to
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If you want an easy comparison to compare power, compare the number of defendants housed in state/local prison facilities compared to the federal system.


No .

Your autism is fricking you over here.

Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:58 pm to
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This isn't like bankruptcy. You don't get to just declare it.


Says the guy that just stated the FBI wasn’t political.

But I’ll clarify that the basis of your absurd positions on many topics is due to emotional thinking is only an opinion of mine.

It would take a true diagnosis to factually explain your psychosis.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:59 pm to
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check the conviction rates. Even better, compare the cost of mounting a defense to charges.

I don't think they're that significantly different overall, especially costs.

It's expensive as frick to fight major state charges.

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I cannot imagine hiring a defense attorney that thinks the government is awesome and fair.

Who is arguing that?

Don't you mean, you can't imagine hiring an attorney who thinks that state and local governments are awesome and fair, and only the feds are bad?
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 1:00 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Says the guy that just stated the FBI wasn’t political.

But I’ll clarify that the basis of your absurd positions on many topics is due to emotional thinking is only an opinion of mine.

It would take a true diagnosis to factually explain your psychosis.


only ad homs to avoid answering questions

the white flag is at belt-level...

This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 1:01 pm
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Better comparison... check the conviction rates. Even better, compare the cost of mounting a defense to charges.


He wants you to play in the playground he defined.

There is a reason that honest, innocent people are advised never to speak to feds.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:01 pm to
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There is a reason that honest, innocent people are advised never to speak to feds.

Why only feds?

Why should they feel OK talking to their local LEO?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:02 pm to
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Was AggieHank an SFP alter?


SFP imitated Jersey Tiger, now he has chosen Aggy Hank as his new muse.


It would be nice if he dropped the charade and actually talked on a personal level.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:02 pm to
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I don't think they're that significantly different overall, especially costs.
I refuse to believe you believe this is true.
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Who is arguing that?
Classic I didn't say what I said.

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Don't you mean, you can't imagine hiring an attorney who thinks that state and local governments are awesome and fair, and only the feds are bad?
I can't image that either. But it's your words, not mine.
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10760 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:03 pm to
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It's not


Are you drunk?
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