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re: X claims stage 4 cancer patients are responding to Ivermectin & Fenbendazole
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:12 am to jimmy the leg
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:12 am to jimmy the leg
quote:
If a disease is cured, then you don’t need continue curing it. I’m not saying that these drugs are a catch all treatment
Cancer isn't communicable, so people will never stop getting cancer.
The idea that there's some huge conspiracy to not cure "cancer" is absolutely insane.
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Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:12 am to Knuckle Checker
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It should be easy to prove. Just compare cancer rates to countries that use ivermectin regularly.
…..I’m not sure you know how to prove something……
It needs to be given in the same population with the same exogenous conditions and compare how the two groups do
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:15 am to 632627
quote:
The idea that there's some huge conspiracy to not cure "cancer" is absolutely insane.
It's one of the dumber legacy conspiracy theories.
Ignoring the fact that they would monetize cancer treatments, old people are money printing machines. Having more of them, and having them live longer, is +EV.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
So a third party making Monday Morning QB calls about Jobs’ healthcare decisions?
Jobs was a very private person, so I doubt anyone outside of his circle knows what actually took place or what his diagnosis was.
Jobs was a very private person, so I doubt anyone outside of his circle knows what actually took place or what his diagnosis was.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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His decision to delay surgery for months and rely on holistic treatments made his cancer incurable (it spread, etc.)
Pancreatic cancer is going to spread no matter what. Even the article you linked said the surgery would only potentially allow him to live a little longer.
Certain cancers are a death sentence. My dad had lung cancer. There are two types of lung cancers. Non-small cell and small cell. He had small cells which like pancreatic cancer is not if but when will you die. After a long fight, he told me he had enough and understood why people opt out of treatments and surgeries. Like all incurable cancers (which Jobs had) it spread to his liver, brain, etc, and killed him.
Jobs was smart enough to know that all of the treatments would be for nothing and painful so he chose alternatives. After seeing what my dad suffered with, I can honestly say I understand why someone would choose that if they knew the medical way was painful and you still die anyway.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:22 am to Jake88
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I wasn't talking about one disease reoccurring for decades. I was talking about dozens of other illnesses that will occur during one's late 60s-90s.
Understood.
As you correctly noted, as we age, we are more likely to have medical issues.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:23 am to LSUAngelHere1
quote:You familiar with SWOG?
The same one who lied about the biological weapon being a vaccine that’s safe & effective?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:29 am to 632627
quote:
The idea that there's some huge conspiracy to not cure "cancer" is absolutely insane.
Ignoring potential treatments that seem to be effective seems unwise.
I illustrated that point with how Covid treatments were centered around a “vaccine,” and all other methods weren’t simply ignored, but demonized.
I’m simply stating that it’s plausible to think that the pharmaceutical / medical industry may be looking out for their interests as much as (if not more so) than there patients.
Money matters.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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Ignoring the fact that they would monetize cancer treatments, old people are money printing machines. Having more of them, and having them live longer, is +EV.
You are ignoring that it also means a whole lot more money shelled out from social security, medicare and medicaid, etc. Maybe a cure being widespread isn't up to the medical industry.
I am not saying I believe there is a hidden cure but I am saying I understand how people could logically conclude there may be.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:31 am to SelaTiger
quote:maybe the dumbest thing I've read on this site. and that's saying something.
if true, they'll ban it
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:31 am to SelaTiger
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 8:34 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:33 am to stout
Time to invest in "horse paste."
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:35 am to Sofaking2
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One of the safest drug profiles on the planet. There is a lot of data on ivermectin. Amazing to watch Democrats demonize a drug, lol.
They were hell bent on making us "Trumpers" bend the knee and take the vaxx.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:37 am to Jake88
quote:
Then why is Johns Hopkins researching it?
I'm sure they'll "research it" for 15 years, make up the data they need to say it doesn't work, and disregard it in peer reviewed studies as ineffective... then carry on pushing treatments, not cures, for Big Pharma... Like they have done for decades now.
Or were you not aware that's how it works?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:38 am to stout
quote:
Since when is pancreatic cancer curable?
When it presents early enough where the tumor is resectable, which would be AJCC Stage I or II.
Even resecting neuroendocrine tumors can be curative if no metastases is present.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:43 am to jimmy the leg
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If a disease is cured, then you don’t need continue curing it. I’m not saying that these drugs are a catch all treatment. But logically, if fewer diseases are in need of being treated, then there will be less money to be made on those treatments.
Precisely.
Question for the class - when was the last time we heard that a disease - any disease- was actually cured? Not that someone recovered or is in remission - the entire disease wiped out/cured?
There are more dollars flowing into pharmaceutical companies than ever, shouldn't we be hearing on the regular that various diseases/bugs/infections are cured?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:44 am to stout
quote:His form of cancer has a 95% survival rate if localized, 72% with some regional spread, distant spread 23%. Jobs delayed treatment.
Since when is pancreatic cancer curable
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 8:45 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:46 am to stout
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Since when is pancreatic cancer curable?
I’ve had several patients in the hospital over the course of my time here that had the surgery for it 20+ years ago. It’s not an auto death sentence and you can’t paint with such a wide brush here.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 8:56 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:46 am to stout
quote:If they want people to die off faster and younger, why has the medical industry and government discouraged smoking so intensely?
You are ignoring that it also means a whole lot more money shelled out from social security, medicare and medicaid, etc. Maybe a cure being widespread isn't up to the medical industry
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:50 am to crazy4lsu
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When it presents early enough where the tumor is resectable, which would be AJCC Stage I or II.
Even resecting neuroendocrine tumors can be curative if no metastases is present.
OK and I know we give each other shite but I appreciate you teaching me something. I was always told it was an automatic death sentence. I honestly assumed that to be the case.
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