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re: WTF? US internet speeds have gone from 12th to 6th in the world since NN repeal.

Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:42 pm to
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Also 5G will be 1000x faster than fiber. So curious to see what the major ISPs do to keep customers.


I have Gigablast at the house now, I doubt that 5G will be faster than that.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:44 pm to
In BR on my Verizon phone I get 65MB down and 17MB up. That is incredible. Think about if 15 years ago someone told you that your phone would be able to get those speeds.

With 5G 400MB down will be the norm.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:46 pm to
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I have Gigablast at the house now, I doubt that 5G will be faster than that.




5G is touted as having 4 gigabits per second. Gigablast is faster?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:48 pm to
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With 5G 400MB down will be the norm.


One more zero. 4,000 MB or 4 GB.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:51 pm to
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5G is touted as having 4 gigabits per second. Gigablast is faster?


Looks like I'm wrong. I didn't think 5G was supposed to be that fast

LINK

Real world 3 Gigs per second. wow

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37807 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:53 pm to
Certainly a regulation from 1934 is the proper way to handle these new fangled speeds and space age technology
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Real world 3 Gigs per second. wow


Yeah, this IBD article states 4 gigs per second under optimum conditions.

3 gigs is still blazing fast.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:57 pm to
There hasn’t been enough real world field testing to put up actual numbers. T mobile is testing in Manhattan and reports are that users are getting 500MB per second.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:58 pm to
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T mobile is testing in Manhattan and reports are that users are getting 500MB per second.


Okay, that makes sense.

Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:03 pm to
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The internet speeds at my house have gone up from 60 Mbps to 200 Mbps with a free hardware upgrade and no additional fee from Charter Spectrum. WTF is going on?


Only idiots were out there arguing that the end residential user would have a problem with connectivity because of NN.

That was not the point. The whole pricing tier aspect was a smokescreen. I would not be so quick to celebrate. We will see what happens over the next few years.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Yeah, this IBD article states 4 gigs per second under optimum conditions.


There are two different spectrums that 5G uses. One is 600 MHz which is close to existing LTE spectrum and the other is 24-86 MHz. The lower band spectrum is much much faster but more costly to deploy for telecoms. T mobile is using the 600 spectrum.

Companies like Nokia are going to be selling billions of dollars of new equipment over the next few years. Might be a good time to buy some stock.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14604 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:18 pm to
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The internet speeds at my house have gone up from 60 Mbps to 200 Mbps with a free hardware upgrade and no additional fee from Charter Spectrum. WTF is going on? I can't handle the freedom.

Dang, I must have missed the boat on that. In order to go from 60 Mb/s to 200 Mb/s, my monthly rate went up $15. It's still an ok price, but prices have been going. Not sure what NN has to do with any of it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Companies like Nokia are going to be selling billions of dollars of new equipment over the next few years. Might be a good time to buy some stock.



<----goes to TD Ameritrade account and does some research.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:24 pm to
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Dang, I must have missed the boat on that. In order to go from 60 Mb/s to 200 Mb/s, my monthly rate went up $15. It's still an ok price, but prices have been going. Not sure what NN has to do with any of it.


It was a surprise to me. I just called Charter for a cable modem issue and the guy on the phone just offered up the upgrade.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23278 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:26 pm to
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The internet speeds at my house have gone up from 60 Mbps to 200 Mbps with a free hardware upgrade and no additional fee from Charter Spectrum. WTF is going on? I can't handle the freedom.


Mine too.

SO.

MUCH.

PORNHUB.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:28 pm to
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allowed the market to dictate itself. This, in turn, has spurred competition and innovation which ultimately creates a better product for consumers.


This is how more free markets work, even with international trade
Posted by 100851
Member since Jan 2015
107 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:05 pm to
We dont have to "guess" what will happen now that NN is repealed. We know exactly how pricing models work for cell phone carriers.

When people wanted a cell phone to "talk", you got charged by the minute. When people wanted to use their phones for data instead of talking, minutes are now FREE, and you pay for the data.

They will continue to charge for each byte and they will squeeze as much as they can from each subscriber. Its literally their business model.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:19 pm to
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This is how more free markets work, even with international trade




I agree if we are trading with partners that don't cheat. Cutting honey with rice sugar is a no go IMO. Cutting corners in steel metallurgy and heat treatments is a no go IMO.

When I say free markets I assume the refs are not paid off by the REC. It's an even playing field. We have even playing fields with most counties except the obvious, China, Iran, and Russia.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 4:23 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:22 pm to
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They will continue to charge for each byte and they will squeeze as much as they can from each subscriber.


Well, you are correct. But you make it sound so negative. What the ISPs charge will be determined between them and the costumer. If the price is too high then the ISP's business model will fail. There will be a sweet spot or range. The market will figure it out.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:35 pm to
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The internet speeds at my house have gone up from 60 Mbps to 200 Mbps with a free hardware upgrade and no additional fee from Charter Spectrum.


Please explain how you got this? I have Charter also and I am interested.
Thanks
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