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re: WSJ: Without limits placed on testimony, the jurors can now learn why the case was faulty

Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:48 am to
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
9957 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:48 am to
If youre ever on trial for anything im going to testify against you about how you spit on my kid and kicked my dog. Who cares if its relevant to the charge, right?

Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
13973 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:57 am to
That mental midget with his crayon law degree incoming.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10139 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:32 am to
They would have ignored his testimony just like they'd ignore this article. The jurors wanted to find Trump guilty as much as the judge did.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
25665 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:38 am to
quote:

The reason she was allowed to testify about it is because Trump denied that it even happened.


Which is irrelevant. The payment is relevant. She could have been blackmailing him for listening to Nickelback and it would be the same thing.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 6:12 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60627 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:19 am to
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SFP incoming, “that was a stupid article, and has no relevance to Trump’s crimes”


Texridder beat him to the punch.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15657 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:32 am to
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The reason she was allowed to testify about it is because Trump denied that it even happened.


She also denied it ever happened.

And there was no reason to allow it. It added nothing to the case. The entire sex was not relevant to the case.

Oh, you don't understand that, do you?

This case had nothing to do about the sex act.

About was about the labeling of the payment in the books.

And then the even more dumb statement that it was done in the commission of another crime.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46014 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:37 am to
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Stormy’s salicious testimony was for jury opinion manipulation and nothing more.

/\ the entire situation defined perfectly /\

there is no logical rebuttal of that
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46014 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:39 am to
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Oh, you don't understand that, do you?

This case had nothing to do about the sex act.

About was about the labeling of the payment in the books.

And then the even more dumb statement that it was done in the commission of another crime.

and if anyone wants to challenge the previous post - /\ here is your rebuttal. /\
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68297 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:39 am to
I found the “highly partisan” poster.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46014 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:41 am to
quote:

quote:
SFP incoming, “that was a stupid article, and has no relevance to Trump’s crimes”
===
Texridder beat him to the punch.

I wonder if SFP and TexRidder are the same person - when SFP wants to post really stupid stuff that doesn't fit his SFP image of 'fair contrarian.'
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:43 am to
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quote:
WSJ: Without limits placed on testimony, the jurors can now learn why the case was faulty


Stupid article. He says that Daniels should not have been allowed to testify about the sex act.

The reason she was allowed to testify about it is because Trump denied that it even happened.

That was a swing and a miss.


So is the attempt to deflect from the point of the article. There were no electiion laws broken...no extended statue of limitations ...as per the man that oversees the body that had supposed laws broken.
The Babylon Bee was 100% right... Trump was only guilty of breaking laws that Bragg made up and Merchan was complicit in the execution. If liberals can't see how dangerous that this tactic s ... Then the will be some dark days ahead
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
51967 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:58 am to
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jurors can learn what Journal readers have known for more than a year—hush-money payments to alleged mistresses are not campaign contributions.


This has been known for more than a year so the jurors knew this
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
79368 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:07 am to
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SFP incoming, “that was a stupid article, and has no relevance to Trump’s crimes”
I would love to see anyone defend the Judge's conduct in this case.

How is the defense not allowed to call witnesses or testify themselves?

How is this case even brought as a felony on the state level?

The final instructions to the jury? Wow.

Case could get tossed on appeal due solely to jurisdiction issues.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16670 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:12 am to
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Idiot. She needed to go into graphic detail about specific sex acts that she previously denied in order to refute someone else’s denial? Resulting in an NDA that wasn’t even being legally contested in this trial?

Daniels either perjured herself on the stand or perjured herself in her previous disclosure.

Cohen either perjured himself on the stand or perjured himself in his previous statements.

Both have made statements in the press that indicate they have it out personally for Trump.

Neither should be taken seriously and any objective hurt when presented with their previous statements and social media would laugh at them.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17349 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:21 am to
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In 2010, in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310, the Supreme Court held 5 to 4 that the freedom of speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by closely allied corporations and groups like The Trump Organization. Under Citizens United, it was perfectly legal for The Trump Organization to pay Daniels $130,000 in hush money to conceal her alleged affair with Donald Trump…
And that's why he was not charged with a campaign violation... hence Mr. Smith's testimony was irrelevant because it didn't pertain to any charges indicted on.

Nevermind it was the lynchpin of both the verdict and the indictment, of felonies. It's circular logic, with intent, to violate a citizen's constitutional rights (to take ours who would like to choose our next leader that doesn't have both the constitution and cognitive skills of a 9 month old).
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107796 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:22 am to
They'll never admit they were wrong. And the fact the 2 lawyers won't should cost them their licenses
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119852 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:30 am to
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I'm sorry the media has done this to you.


Tex is a moron ex nihilo. She is not dependent on outside sources.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
79368 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:33 am to
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Stupid article. He says that Daniels should not have been allowed to testify about the sex act.

The reason she was allowed to testify about it is because Trump denied that it even happened.

That was a swing and a miss.
He called the dress blue, but it was royal blue. . .so therefore everything he said can be ignored as a lie.

This is what you are going with?
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10715 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:33 am to
A trial..for paying a whore.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
12812 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:44 am to
This prosecution marked a first time in history. This whole trial was curated for 1 man. Nobody else would ever be prosecuted.
quote:

"In fact, no state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever," CNN Chief Legal Analyst Elie Konig wrote.
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