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re: WSJ: Banning Diesel Exports a bad idea

Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
3514 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:57 am to
In San Jose area I am seeing $8.90/gallon for renewable diesel.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15276 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:01 am to
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A ban on exports would increase global diesel prices


I said the same thing a week or so ago when the subject came up.

MAGA wouldn't listen, of course.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
62050 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:05 am to
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Pretty much what I posted on the other thread Glad to see wsj support the notion that this is a bad idea.

Yeah we La baws that understand the industry pointed out that a ban was a bad idea two days ago on the OT.

It’s fun seeing some of the post in this thread, especially slamming the WSJ and while not providing any information as to what they printed was wrong.

Seems like these responses would be coming from liberals and not posters I know to be conservative.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17194 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:11 am to
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Seems like these responses would be coming from liberals and not posters I know to be conservative.


Bullseye

The suggestion to put an export ban on diesel is classic liberal mindset.
Same for asking the oil companies to stop “gouging” us at the gas pump. This is Obama / Biden type crap.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10906 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:14 am to
There are no pipelines from the US Gulf Coast to other countries.

Just reroute the tankers to the east and west coast to meet our demand.

What am I missing?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65084 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:38 am to
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Just reroute the tankers to the east and west coast to meet our demand. What am I missing?


There’s a whole section of the country that isn’t on a coast.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65084 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:41 am to
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Was silly for that to be mentioned.


No, it was mentioned to counter your stupid point and to show that transport via ship is cheaper.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:41 am to
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Yeah we La baws that understand the industry pointed out that a ban was a bad idea two days ago on the OT.


Gov Jeff Landry must not care about what you LA baws have to say. He’s hitting up every TV and radio station who will have him advocating for a 90 day ban.
This post was edited on 9/23/26 at 11:42 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
92138 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:43 am to
I'm still waiting on their black monday prediction due to tariffs to come true.




Any day now.


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
68798 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:34 pm to
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No, it was mentioned to counter your stupid point and to show that transport via ship is cheaper.


It didn't do that. Hawaii isn't a part of the WSJ article or the discussion at all. It's completely irrelevant.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2731 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:45 pm to
I know a lot of you guys work in the oil and gas industry so know a lot about this shite. I have a few questions:
- isn't diesel produced in combination with refining oil for gasoline? in other words they are refined out of same batch of oil? Or are there refineries that only produce diesel and refineries that only produce gasoline?

do we produce far more diesel than is consumed domestically? if true then we would have to shut down production of diesel to some extent if exports are banned? and if diesel is produced in combination with producing gasoline then gasoline production would be reduced, thereby raising gas prices?
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13913 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:46 pm to
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suspend or scrap the renewable fuel standard (aka ethanol mandate).


This and only this!
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
34196 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483243 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:52 pm to
I can't wait for the spin when the totality of this fails.

We need to start a Kalshi market on what conspiracy takes hold and who becomes the villain
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
3619 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 1:00 pm to
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Umm no. Most people who drive obnoxious diesels don’t need them but have them as a luxury to tow other luxury items.


New MAGA 2026 slogan just dropped.

Punish the rich.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76722 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 1:03 pm to
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Gov Jeff Landry must not care about what you LA baws have to say. He’s hitting up every TV and radio station who will have him advocating for a 90 day ban.

He's already been respectfully slapped down by Chris Wright, but he keeps on spouting that shite.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
34196 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65084 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 1:06 pm to
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It didn't do that. Hawaii isn't a part of the WSJ article or the discussion at all. It's completely irrelevant.


Are you retarded?

I’m shocked (not really) that so many on this board think that this is a good idea.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76722 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

- isn't diesel produced in combination with refining oil for gasoline? in other words they are refined out of same batch of oil?

Yes.

quote:

do we produce far more diesel than is consumed domestically? if true then we would have to shut down production of diesel to some extent if exports are banned? and if diesel is produced in combination with producing gasoline then gasoline production would be reduced, thereby raising gas prices?

You've got it.

There is no shortage of diesel in the US. We won't have the capacity to consume the volume of diesel that will be produced. We also don't have the storage capacity to hold it. Refineries will cut production of diesel which will cut gasoline production.

This will likely lower prices in the short term, but that won't last. It should be noted that Chris Wright (Energy Secretary) and mostly every other trusted person put in a position by this administration are warning this will be the fallout. This is why you don't have politicians making wholesale market decisions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483243 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

There is no shortage of diesel in the US. We won't have the capacity to consume the volume of diesel that will be produced. We also don't have the storage capacity to hold it. Refineries will cut production of diesel which will cut gasoline production.

This will likely lower prices in the short term, but that won't last. It should be noted that Chris Wright (Energy Secretary) and mostly every other trusted person put in a position by this administration are warning this will be the fallout. This is why you don't have politicians making wholesale market decisions.


I don't know how this can be explained more simply

Also, remember the costs of imported goods will increase severely due to diesel prices skyrocketting outside of the US
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