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re: Woah.. has anyone watched this video of the plane crash?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:38 am to Smeg
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:38 am to Smeg
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What would motivate a pilot to basically kamikaze into a small commercial jet filled with civilians?
Banning of transgender's in the military would be my first inclination. Trans people are NOT stable people.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:47 am to WylieTiger
Andrew Eaves
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Chief warrant officer Andrew Eaves, one of three soldiers who was inside the helicopter during the crash, has family in Clermont and Clinton counties.
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In a statement, Eaves’ family members said they were heartbroken about his death, saying in part “Andrew was a kind, loving, fun loving and patriotic man. He loved his wife and kids fiercely and would have done anything to take care of them. He was a great son, and loved his mom and brother dearly. He was an absolute joy to be around and would light up every room he entered, and was always the life of the party. He was a true all American hero, and will be deeply missed by anyone lucky enough to have known him."
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 7:51 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:52 am to HeyCap
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If the RJ declined the runway change what would the helicopter have done?
The intercept points for those two runways, at a mile out, are about 1,000 yards apart. In a helo traveling at 150 knots that’s about 12 seconds of flying, so I don’t think it would have been a problem if this was intentional.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:55 am to The Boat
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Blackhawk goes from 200 ft to 300 ft, plane comes down from 400 ft to 300 ft
Experts on late night Fox last night said that the Helocopter ceiling is supposed to be 200 feet, and it is the Air Traffic Controller who is supposed to call these type errors out when they see them, and that was not done.
Also said that the pilot was wearing night-vision goggles and, per policy, that means all on board should have been doing the same.
They also said the the Helo is normally supposed to have four on board, and the missing one from the back is an extra set of eyes to help avoid such a collision.
I am not saying it was intentional, because we don't have enough information. It would appear that there were multiple screw ups that caused this.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:58 am to Mandtgr47
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Dude play your games somewhere else. You don't know wtf you are talking about. I see you in every thread playing devil's advocate, or just being stupid. I did this for 8 years, I know a lot about this as a former ATC.
I’m a pilot. I’m telling you from my experience that it’s hard to see other planes. Every pilot knows this. I’m surprised you don’t agree with it, because I hear controllers telling pilots to look out for traffic all the time, and very often the pilots never visually locate the other planes.
I think every other thing in your post was correct, except for that. And I agree with you that the pilot saying he had the plane in sight shifts the majority of the responsibility to the helo pilot. Maybe the ATC has some blame, but if so it would probably be that the heads up wasn’t earlier or something.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:06 am to FLTech
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:07 am to Penrod
Not being a pilot I’m just doubtful that if somebody were trying to do something nefarious, they could to do it under the watchful eye two other people. I don’t think you can sneak into position like that, and then suddenly fly directly into a plane on purpose.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:08 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:08 am to FLTech
Did someone on the plane have a cure for cancer or blueprints for a car that runs on water?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:14 am to Penrod
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:20 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:31 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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I don’t think you can sneak into position like that, and then suddenly fly directly into a plane on purpose.
I think it would be difficult but possible. I think it’s only one other person. I’m not familiar with the Blackhawk flight deck, but I doubt that the third crewman could be a factor if this was intentional. He would not have had time to get out of his harness and get to the controls.
The last vector the helo turned to probably took about seven seconds to fly. If the instructor was paying attention, and had the plane in sight, that is plenty of time to react. The rise of 100 feet above the VFR ceiling could be done very quickly with no time to react.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:33 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Not being a pilot I’m just doubtful that if somebody were trying to do something nefarious, they could to do it under the watchful eye two other people. I don’t think you can sneak into position like that, and then suddenly fly directly into a plane on purpose.
Go back to page 2 and review the last second course change 30 degree and rapid climb to 350 ft
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:42 am to cajunangelle
sooooooooo much time
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:43 am to BigBro
Yeah, sometimes things look like they are from cheap seats. LOL. Dunno, but while we've seen sus some things play out as nefarious in nature, my default view will be Occam's Razor, until shown otherwise.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:47 am to OccamsStubble
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Go back to page 2 and review the last second course change 30 degree and rapid climb to 350 ft
At first glance, this looks suspicious. But if we're accepting the UH-60 didn't SEE the inbound jet, and was altering course to come in behind the plane on the runway taking off, this might makes sense.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:56 am to mtntiger
mtntiger, I don't know anything about flying. I'm wondering why a helicopter wouldn't just hover or stall about close to the flight path, but not in it. After the landing aircraft passes, then follow in behind as instructed? This question of course negates that helo may have focused on a different aircraft farther in front heading for a different strip. Why did it keep flying forward? 
Would a helicopter in this position and instruction in fact have a ceiling of 200 ft.?
Edit: Never mind. Just saw video that the helo was in fact to be no higher than 200 ft. at that location. Helo screw up for one reason or another to be at 300 ft.+.
Would a helicopter in this position and instruction in fact have a ceiling of 200 ft.?
Edit: Never mind. Just saw video that the helo was in fact to be no higher than 200 ft. at that location. Helo screw up for one reason or another to be at 300 ft.+.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 9:18 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:59 am to Trevaylin
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flick slowed down 20-1
Motion is too smooth for that kind of slow-motion. Even reducing video from 30 fps to 15 fps will cause jitter.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:00 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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At first glance, this looks suspicious. But if we're accepting the UH-60 didn't SEE the inbound jet, and was altering course to come in behind the plane on the runway taking off, this might makes sense.
OK now go back to the OP and watch the video of a helicopter advancing toward the jet from well over a mile away for at least 25 seconds. There’s simply no way you can scream toward that jet and NOT see it. Landing lights are bright as hell, and your background is southern sky, not cityscape
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:05 am to FLTech
Of course, conspiracy 
you loons.
you loons.Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:07 am to OccamsStubble
I know nothing about any of this but it looks like the heli flew stait into the plane and centered it. How could you not see it?
And Trump looked like he got hit by a train yesterday.
Alot i dont get with this honestly.
And Trump looked like he got hit by a train yesterday.
Alot i dont get with this honestly.
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