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re: Woah.. has anyone watched this video of the plane crash?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:04 am to SallysHuman
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:04 am to SallysHuman
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It has been all over these boards today/tonight. I have no personal knowledge, just speculation based on other's speculation- rooted in the absolute zero reporting on the third person in the helicopter.
Unless the next of kin is in some remote village deep in the Amazon, there’s really no good reason the pilot hasn’t been identified. It may not be nefarious but there’s something to hide or to be spun to make it more palatable to the public, IMHO.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:22 am to This GUN for HIRE
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Some people's brains just don't do well with them.
You lose depth perception even if you get over eye dominance issues.
They were great at first but should be removed from military use now.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:36 am to Robin Masters
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romantic weekend in Wichita
Romantic and Wichita are not congruent.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:41 am to FLTech
The flight pattern graphic is even more illustrative. Either complete incompetence or intentional.
And now we hear the ATC was doing the job of two people. So who knows
And now we hear the ATC was doing the job of two people. So who knows
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:44 am to jizzle6609
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Germanwings flight a decade ago or so.
That one, and three others. One in Asia, one in Africa, one in New York.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:01 am to SmackoverHawg
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Sorry, that was no accident.
I am a former Air Traffic Controller and I thought the same early on. I have been flying myself the last couple days on business and haven't really dove into this yet. If what I read was right, and weather was not a factor, was VFR conditions......I don't think it was an accident.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:03 am to Swoozie
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there’s really no good reason the pilot hasn’t been identified
JMO, but I don't think this administration would be hiding it. I could see the former admin hiding it.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:10 am to Rebbedup
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I’m not a leftist but people screw up everyday.
Look, I have no idea on this. But what I do know, is that if weather conditions were fine, then the chances of this screw up are like .0000001%....that's the number of flights around the country that have happened over the a period of years at major airports...without a major incident. If there were truly VFR (visual flight rules) in place, then no way this chopper pilot didn't see the jet....and it appears she flew upwards into it. Something isn't adding up. If Trans, we know they are mentally challenged and that is a fact.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:12 am to BigBro
I believe that the tower cleared the flight to land on runway 33 according to the audio. And that runway is the one used the most coming in from that direction on the newscast. Where did you hear about runway 1? After clearing the landing, the tower told the helo to be aware of that flight path and go behind it. And that's where everything gets fuzzy. Were they looking at the wrong plane? Was it intentional? Was it a tower mistake? And the 3rd theory has been brought up because the tower didn't specifically tell the helo at which direction to pay attention to. But, an intentional crash has been brought up also and the response that I've heard on TV is basically everything is on the table. And at this point, it should be until they sort it out.
Edit: I just saw the transcript on TV where they were told to use runway 1 but was changed to runway 33.
Edit: I just saw the transcript on TV where they were told to use runway 1 but was changed to runway 33.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:12 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:15 am to Upperaltiger06
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This accident lies squarely on ATC. This has been a long time coming due to the lack of comprehension of priority in the new generation of controllers.
that's complete bs. I am a former ATC. If there were VFR conditions, it is VERY easy to see a plane at night, even moreso that daytime. If there were VFR conditions, this was no accident. Also, it had to be VFR conditions for the chopper pilot to be doing training exercises. I was a radar controller, and we would routinely turn the incoming flights over to the tower on a 3 mile radius, and if VFR conditions, they would clear them to land. I find it very hard to believe that an experienced pilot would make this mistake.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:16 am to Crowley Cajun
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fter clearing the landing, the tower told the helo to be aware of that flight path and go behind it. And that's where everything gets fuzzy. Were they looking at the wrong plane?
an experienced chopper pilot would not make this mistake if the weather was not a factor.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:17 am to FLTech
I don’t know, it also seems to show another flight coming in at the end that could have been the “other flight” that the helo was purportedly mistakenly fixing on, it appears it would have come behind it as directed.
However I’m really getting the feeling it was much more sinister.
However I’m really getting the feeling it was much more sinister.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:20 am to Mandtgr47
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an experienced chopper pilot would not make this mistake if the weather was not a factor.
Weather was fine and clear.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:21 am to FLTech
Unless it is revealed that Helen Keller was flying the chopper, I just can't buy that this was an accident. I don't care what the ATC tells you, you have eyes and can see a big arse plane with all its landing lights on.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:28 am to momentoftruth87
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Weather was fine and clear.
that's my point
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:30 am to Mandtgr47
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JMO, but I don't think this administration would be hiding it. I could see the former admin hiding it.
I agree with you. Maybe I should have said slow roll instead of hiding it because I don’t think they will long term.
I’m in the group that thinks Trump was implying something about this incident when he went off on DEI yesterday.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:31 am to AUstar
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you have eyes and can see a big arse plane with all its landing lights on.
it is by far easier to see at night than in the day. Unless this pilot was completely incompetent, and the weather was clear (which it was), then there is more to the story. This just doesn't happen. In good conditions, Pilots are often given clearances to land and are to follow VFR.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:38 am to Swoozie
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I’m in the group that thinks Trump was implying something about this incident when he went off on DEI yesterday.
I initially thought his statement was a little harsh, given the time. If this turns out true, I understand why he was saying it. I believe he knows something, and that's why butplug hit back so hard....he knows too.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:39 am to FLTech
Just going to leave this here.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:46 am to Swoozie
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I’m in the group that thinks Trump was implying something about this incident when he went off on DEI yesterday.
Agreed, but imo he was talking about ATC being understaffed because 1 person was manning the job for 2 separate towers, and that happened directly because of DEI, and so he was pissed.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 6:47 am
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