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re: Withholding Order for Garcia applied to GUATEMALA not EL SALVADOR
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:13 am to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:13 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:Go to p37 (pp37-51)
I haven't seen the entire record of the immigration proceedings. I'm not sure it's available for public viewing.
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:19 am to NC_Tigah
Thanks??? I have to get SOME work done, today...but I am very interested. Much obliged.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:23 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
Thanks
It's an addendum to the SCOTUS case, a fact which itself is interesting.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:26 am to dgnx6
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(iv) there are reasonable grounds to believe that the alien is a danger to the security of the United States.
Our government had a choice between protecting American citizens and deporting a criminal to face consequences of his own actions. They chose the criminal. Shocking (sarcasm).
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:34 am to NC_Tigah
Thanks, again NC. Quick perusal of that looks to be what I have already seen in the link I provided above.
Unless I missed it, that record doesn't have Abrego Garcia’s form where he applies for withholding. I don't know the law on this. Would he have been limited to one country in that application.
Shouldn't there be some minute entry summarizing the Judge's Order...as in "Applicant is granted withholding from deportation to X"?
Unless I missed it, that record doesn't have Abrego Garcia’s form where he applies for withholding. I don't know the law on this. Would he have been limited to one country in that application.
Shouldn't there be some minute entry summarizing the Judge's Order...as in "Applicant is granted withholding from deportation to X"?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:36 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Shouldn't there be some minute entry summarizing the Judge's Order...as in "Applicant is granted withholding from deportation to X"?
I'm just waiting on SFP to show up and tell us we are reading it all wrong. Should be here in any minute now.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:40 am to IvoryBillMatt
One of the reasons I was arguing about administrative error vs a mistake was because the error is implying there was a problem with a process or paper work.
A mistake generally implies someone being careless.
A mistake generally implies someone being careless.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:44 am to IvoryBillMatt
The gang that was supposedly a threat to him was from Guatemala wasn't it?
This makes sense.
This makes sense.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:57 am to the808bass
Is any of this going to hinder the efforts of our brave congressional freedom fighters in their efforts to bring home this law-abiding Maryland father?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:58 am to NC_Tigah
His CAT claims failed because for the CAT, the torture must be by government. He failed to show it.
Read the seven page opinion folks.
Read the seven page opinion folks.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:03 am to mmcgrath
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Yeah, the quote looks like it is ok to deport him to Guatemala. Doesn't say anything about El Salvador.
Surely you will come back and address this
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:05 am to MintBerry Crunch
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Read the seven page opinion folks.
quote:
You can keep saying this, but there is no credible evidence this guy was a member of a gang.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:06 am to the808bass
quote:In regards to barring deportation to El Salvador there is a 2019 hearing that is germane to this thread.
I think the judge might have just gotten confused and typed the wrong country. Or was using copy/paste.
Guatemalans comprised the largest group that he dealt with.
Oh, and just sayin':
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lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
12606 posts
Why do people say so factually incorrect stuff so confidently. Withholding of Removal is literally statutory meaning it was created by Congress. A judge doesn’t just get to just decide where a person can or can’t be deported, they have to follow statute.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:10 am to I20goon
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In regards to barring deportation to El Salvador there is a 2019 hearing that is germane to this thread.
What do you think this thread is about?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:16 am to the808bass
quote:just noting that the linked full record above is 2025.
What do you think this thread is about?
We have a thread about 2019 hearing, screen captures with no dates, and a link to the full record of a 2025 hearing.
Just pointing it out.
and, worth noting, if there was no due process how have there been THREE hearings?
additionally, for those (not you the808bass) screaming about due process....
let's talk about "due", as in what is Garcia due, before we talk about the "process". I promise you, he is due much less than even the worst citizen.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:18 am to I20goon
quote:Like this:
In regards to barring deportation to El Salvador there is a 2019 hearing that is germane to this thread.
quote:... which is cited multiple times in the thread??
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:20 am to I20goon
quote:It contains the 2019 findings, verbatim, as an attachment.
just noting that the linked full record above is 2025.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:27 am to IvoryBillMatt
If this is true then the DOJ is straight-up incompetent.
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