re: Witches and demons are real... here is one

I don’t think we understand how evil the concept of abortion is, because society sanitizes it and portrays it as something it isn’t. It’s murder and it’s child sacrifice

Well, to be fair, Witches/Wiccans are idiots seeking attention.

She has no power, she is nothing special.

Having said that, she IS unwittingly serving Satan with her behavior.

Witchcraft/Wicca is for people who lack talent but seek attention.

Either way, she's an evil, Narcissistic b!tch.

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reminds me of Rosemary's Baby

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You have to believe there might be some connection from a movie like that to Roman Polanski, Sharon Tate, and his unborn child, and Polanski's later issues in life with sex and minors.

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I think she's just a larping dip shite.

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Er, yes and no.

She has no Supernatural powers, but she is emboldened by the attention she is getting and THAT is her power.


She is unwittingly doing work for Satan.

Wood.

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As usual you take a few verses out of context and make sweeping generalizations out of them.

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I never take the Bible out of context. In fact I’m one of the few on this site who does put it into historical context.

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God is speaking of the false idols the Israelites were worshipping with child sacrifice.

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There were no “false idols”. Only idols (from the Greek word). The corresponding Hebrew word literally means “shite gods”. They never denied the existence of these gods. It’s just that from Josiah on through the return from Exile they re-wrote their scriptures to paint all the old gods they worshipped plus the gods of foreigners in a bad light. The idols you mention were worshipped using figurines, carvings, statues, or totems, no different than how the Israelites worshipped El, Yahweh, Asherah, Nehushtan, and other gods (we know this from history and archaeology, but this is all admitted in the Bible). Archaeologists have found statues and figurines of Yahweh and El in Judah and Israel from 1000-100BCE. The “golden calf” was a representation of Yahweh, as another example. Aaron wasn’t worshipping a foreign god or a fake god… he was worshipping Yahweh, and after he throws the gold into the fire and Yahweh turns it into an “calf” (actually a young mature bull), Aaron declares a feast day for Yahweh. Put that into context, the calf represents Yahweh. And Yahweh himself turned it into a calf if you go by the oldest manuscripts we have of Exodus.

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Meaning he allowed the Israelites to destroy themselves through their worship of false gods.

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That’s a theme on this site. Y’all somehow think Yahweh allowing the Israelites to destroy themselves is different than Yahweh destroying them.

The context for Ezekiel that I quoted was that the scribe was trying to demonize child sacrifice. That means he wanted to end the practice of child sacrifice in Israel. That means the Israelites were sacrificing their firstborns just as Yahweh commanded in Exodus. The scribe of Ezekiel took the approach that he was going to have Yahweh admit that he demanded the sacrifices, but that it was a form of punishment and that the Israelites should no longer practice child sacrifice. The scribe of Jeremiah took the opposite approach (conflicts with Ezekiel) and simply denied that Yahweh had ever accepted and commanded child sacrifice. Jeremiah and Ezekiel didn’t coordinate their writings.

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It's pretty straightforward when looked at through the entire book of Ezekiel and what was happening with the Jews of the time.

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I agree!

Didn’t realize he directed that, that’s really twighlight zone stuff, there is a real link between the spiritual and its physical manifestations

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the Jews didn’t sacrifice their sons to Jehovah God.

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My man, I know you’ve read exodus and Ezekiel and I know you know Yahweh (Jehovah) says to give him the firstborn of people and cattle. On the eighth day, take the firstborn from the mother and give it to Yahweh. The custom was to slice the throat of the sacrifice and then burn it (see the story of Abraham and Isaac, which I also you you’ve read). You aren’t a dumb guy, and you are knowledgeable of scripture, but you can’t out it into historical context because you are indoctrinated. Yahweh also accepted the sacrifice of Jepthah’s daughter and he also accepted the sacrifice of the sons and grandsons of King Saul.

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The firstborn of your sons you shall give to Me: This was done through redemption, the giving of money to substitute for the son (Exodus 34:19-20). Money was also substituted for the firstborn among unclean animals, but the firstborn among clean animals was sacrificed to the LORD.

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Your beliefs won’t let you comprehend what I’m about to type, but here goes anyway. The Bible was written by multiple scribes. One scribe says Yahweh states to sacrifice to him the firstborn of every Israelite on the eighth day. Another scribe comes along and doesn’t like what it says, but can’t erase the part he doesn’t like, so he adds some stuff. He adds to redeem the firstborn. Redeem is the same as ransom. It’s a substitution so that the firstborn can be bought back from Yahweh’s destruction. Presumably, without a suitable unblemished calf or goat to use as the substitute, one would still have to sacrifice their firstborn.

After the return from exile, Jeremiah and Ezekiel didn’t like sacrifice of children, so they wanted to end it. Jeremiah totally denied that Yahweh ever demanded child sacrifice. Ezekiel admitted that he did demand child sacrifice but that it was a punishment and he no longer requires it.

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In Jehovah’s case, he actually did give up his only son as a sacrifice for us. He used these passages as examples of the cost he would pay to redeem sinful man.

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Wrong. Yahweh didn’t give up his only son. If you believe what the earliest Christians (like Paul) believed, Yahweh is Jesus. Yahweh is LORD, right? Ever heard of Kyrios? That’s Greek for Yahweh. The Septuagint calls YHWH Kyrios, and the NT calls Jesus Kyrios. Yahweh is LORD, Jesus is LORD, Yahweh is Jesus, Jesus is Yahweh.

The NT writers referred to the father (El Elyon) as Theos, and Yahweh as Kyrios. Look at the Hebrew and the Greek of Deuteronomy 32:8-9 and you might understand.

I challenge you to find any mention in the canonical NT where it ever mentions Jesus as “son of the LORD”. No, Jesus is LORD. Jesus is son of Theos, aka El Elyon.

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his only son

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Yahweh didn’t have any sons. El Elyon did, though. Even if you try to conflate Yahweh and El Elyon as one and the same (though they interact with each other in Deut 32) like the post-exilic Jews did, how do Christians then today mention Jesus as his “only son”? Pure stupidity if you ask me.

Look at Genesis 6. Psalm 82. Deut 32. Many many times the sons of God “bene Elohim” are mentioned. “God” had many sons. The English translation of the Greek “monogenes” as “only son” is such a bad translation. It means one of a kind, or unique. It doesn’t literally mean the only one that exists. Why do christians deny these other sons or God?

Maybe it’s like when Abraham is about to sacrifice his “only son” Isaac. Wait a second, didn’t I just read about a son named Ishmael that came about through the rape of his wife’s slave Hagar?

They are real and they call themselves wiccans. One I met at work and one was an admitted satanist that jives with the wiccan.

They steal things from churches form pentagrams have black masses.

They cook spells and can infuse hexes on objects to give to people.

Why more people don't wear Saint Benedict medals and crucifix's in this day and age is beyond me.