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re: Wildlife Agents Placed a Camera on His Property Without a Warrant, Then Raided His Home

Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by DocSavage
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
324 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:46 pm to
Many rural sheriff's use Wildlife and Fisheries to enter a property in order to find evidence. They may accompany them and wait outside or they may wait and get a warrant based on that evidence.
Wildlife and Fisheries can come in your house without a warrant on the grounds of searching for game in your freezer you can't account for or to question you about your outlaw buddies putting snowy egrets on alligator hooks. If they see your pot of meth on the stove, the Sheriff's office waiting outside now has grounds to arrest you. No warrant needed, no muss no fuss.


FAAFO
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16519 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:54 pm to
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Wildlife and Fisheries can come in your house without a warrant on the grounds of searching for game in your freezer you can't account for or to question you about your outlaw buddies putting snowy egrets on alligator hooks.


Legally they may be able to, but they're going to have to break the fricking door down
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13597 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:54 pm to
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They raided his home because he “stole” an unmarked camera on his own property.


Did it say it was property of the wardens?

I have used a hammer on dozens over the years. All several hundred yards on my side of the line.

A battery powered grinder will also do a number on a poachers ladder or climbing stand.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28090 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:56 pm to
Patriot act was a nail in Americans freedom coffins.

W and odummy. Took almost all of it away.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13597 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:58 pm to
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You have to frick with these guys. If you know where the cameras are leave them be and figure out how to play games with them. Make them waste resources and/or embarrass themselves.




I like that better. Maybe drag a fake corpse in front of it.



Id have my backhoe out there digging holes and dumping wild hog carcasses in them. Give the bastards something to do.

Posted by BoudinChicot
Member since Sep 2021
1077 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:00 pm to
Looks like ol boy got in a pissing match with green jeans about baiting his dove fields.

I'm sure he was baiting (planting corn for a duck blind was his excuse, hahaha) , but I'd feel violated as hell if they were fricking with me on my own land like they did to him.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:12 pm to
As long as I’ve hunted game wardens have had the right to enter pvt property to enforce game laws…the cams are a new twist and seem a bridge too far.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260946 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:14 pm to
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Many rural sheriff's use Wildlife and Fisheries to enter a property in order to find evidence.


They'll also take your cards from the game cams.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53847 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:19 pm to
What was he doing wrong!
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6530 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

The erosion of our civil liberties started a hell of a long time go.


Arguably during the Civil War. And things have just gotten considerably worse as time went on. In WW1, we sent people to prison for simply voicing opposition for the US entering the war. None of this is new. We just forget. We’re a nation of boiling frogs.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23101 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:25 pm to
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What was he doing wrong!



Using bait to hunt birds apparently.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16750 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:26 pm to
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The erosion of our civil liberties started a hell of a long time go.


Yep. We put US citizens in internment camps in WWII.

Makes you wonder if our freedom is more of an illusion.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260946 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Arguably during the Civil War. And things have just gotten considerably worse as time went on. In WW1, we sent people to prison for simply voicing opposition for the US entering the war


Yep, Lincoln imprisoned journalists.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118893 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:29 pm to
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I think a video of Bigfoot masturbating in broad daylight would be a hilarious start


Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3107 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:31 pm to
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a can of $2 spray paint from walmart works better


More like $6+ these days...if you can even find a WalMart employee to unlock the glass they keep them locked behind
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:35 pm to
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Maybe drag a fake corpse in front of it.
Creative.

Maybe drive a T-post right in front of the thing and hang a No Trespass sign blocking the lens?

Do these cameras transmit a signal, or is it necessary for the agent to go on the premises and collect SD cards? If you want to find any such cameras on your property, would a signal allow you to find them?

I ask this because it would seem like a bad idea to let them know that you know where their camera is located. They would just move it to a location that you do not know.

Instead, just avoid misbehaving near the camera.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 2:49 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36113 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:37 pm to
If he killed these agents, I'd acquit him.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90728 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:42 pm to
Green jeans have way more leeway than cops do unfortunately
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
5552 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Wildlife Agents Placed a Camera on His Property Without a Warrant, Then Raided His Home After He Removed It

Would it be illegal to cover the said camera with a canvas bag leaving it right where the agents installed it?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13942 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Green jeans have way more leeway than cops do unfortunately
Green LEO are the only reason we have any game left to hunt.
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