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Wildlife Agents Placed a Camera on His Property Without a Warrant, Then Raided His Home

Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:00 pm
Posted by CrimsonJazz
Member since Dec 2014
962 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:00 pm
Wildlife Agents Placed a Camera on His Property Without a Warrant, Then Raided His Home After He Removed It

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Hollingsworth had been ensnared by a longstanding practice in which state and federal wildlife agencies intrude on clearly marked private property, and in some cases set up cameras, without permission from the property owner. Thanks to a series of court rulings stemming from Prohibition, the practice is legal. But it means that agents of the state can not only enter private property at their whim but install warrantless surveillance systems that can be used to incriminate individuals for activities on their own property.

That's how Hollingsworth ended up not only being arrested, but fined, stripped of his hunting license, and sentenced to probation after his home was searched by armed state wildlife agents. Hollingsworth's case illustrates an overlooked limitation to Fourth Amendment protections, in which nominally private property quietly becomes a tool of state surveillance.


The erosion of our civil liberties started a hell of a long time go.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29719 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:04 pm to
If he wasn’t a property and home owner none of this would have happened!
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
10344 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:05 pm to
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That's how Hollingsworth ended up not only being arrested, but fined, stripped of his hunting license, and sentenced to probation after his home was searched by armed state wildlife agents.


Land of the free.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26169 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:05 pm to
USFWS can pretty much do whatever the frick it wants.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8811 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:11 pm to
These assholes.

They raided his home because he “stole” an unmarked camera on his own property.

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2017, nine months before Hollingsworth ended up in handcuffs, he was confronted on his land by TWRA Officer Kevin Hoofman. Hollingsworth complained, "There ain't no sense in you coming down here every time I hunt, didn't nobody invite you," to which Hoofman replied, "When you bought your hunting license, you invited me."


This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 1:12 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118733 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:11 pm to
Walk up behind the camera and let a branch fall in front of the US Fish and Wildlife Services' camera. Then set up your camera and surveil the surveilers and live stream it for the win.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6757 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:11 pm to
They put an unmarked camera on his land and when he took it down and safely stored it at the direction of his attorney, they arrested him for theft.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8854 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:14 pm to
HELLOFA damn thing to go through on your own property.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27092 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:16 pm to
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USFWS can pretty much do whatever the frick it wants.


They can do whatever they want and many have an ego the size of Texas...
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:17 pm to
The Open Fields Doctrine permits them to do this. I’m a landowner and not saying I like it but it’s legal for them to be anywhere on my farm other than my yard without a warrant.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118733 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:18 pm to
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They put an unmarked camera on his land and when he took it down and safely stored it at the direction of his attorney


Apparently dumb advice.

You have to frick with these guys. If you know where the cameras are leave them be and figure out how to play games with them. Make them waste resources and/or embarrass themselves.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27092 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:19 pm to
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You have to frick with these guys.


It is best to leave them alone and steer clear of them whenever possible...
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8811 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:20 pm to
If it was me (without the history), I’d assume it was a civilian vs an agent. Am I alone?
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4749 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:24 pm to
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Apparently dumb advice.

You have to frick with these guys. If you know where the cameras are leave them be and figure out how to play games with them. Make them waste resources and/or embarrass themselves.


Exactly

All sorts of things you can do to have fun with that, you just have to get creative

I think a video of Bigfoot masturbating in broad daylight would be a hilarious start
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98663 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:25 pm to
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The Open Fields Doctrine permits them to do this. I’m a landowner and not saying I like it but it’s legal for them to be anywhere on my farm other than my yard without a warrant


Seems like fencing and traps are called for here.

frick them.
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
5738 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:26 pm to
Sounds like a Job for "The A Team".
But seriously. What could they do if a person rubbed their Hairy butt on the lens?
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29988 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:29 pm to
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USFWS can pretty much do whatever the frick it wants.



this, yet idiots want to argue that they arent above the law, and that need search warrants, despite clear evidence they dont.

they are lawless authoritarians with powers only rivaled by the IRS for denying you your rights
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5832 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:29 pm to


Fish and Wildlife persons have way more latitude than the average cop because they are frequently by themselves and the folks they are policing usually carry guns.

Generally F and W peeps are honest folks. I gotten two tickets in 65 years and both were dicks.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29988 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:31 pm to
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Walk up behind the camera and let a branch fall in front of the US Fish and Wildlife Services' camera.


meh, a can of $2 spray paint from walmart works better, make it cost them money to usurp your rights.
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1062 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:36 pm to
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You have to frick with these guys.


I would dress up as bigfoot with my arse hanging out and let it take some pics

It is BS that they can do this.
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