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Why Must Everything Be a Conspiracy?

Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:52 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17001 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:52 pm
Why does everything in Ukraine have to be some sort of NWO conspiracy? Why is it so hard to believe that Vlad just wants to take Ukraine as a "frick you" to the West? Here's just a few of the conspiracies you guys seem to believe:

1) America caused Russia's actions (Putin dindu nuffin).

2) Russia is just there to fight Nazi's. (JJDOC says this all the time).

3) America is creating bio-weapons in Ukraine (despite a worldwide ban on such projects).

4) Russia hasn't lost 4,000 soldiers, it's all propaganda.

5) NWO wants us in WWIII. If this was true, then why isn't NATO attacking Russia right now? What's the hold-up? Why is Poland bending over backwards not to take credit for sending jets to Ukraine (as one example)? Why is Biden refusing a no-fly zone?

The ironic thing is all of the above talking points came directly from the Kremlin and is being dispensed by a former communist KGB agent (Putin). I suspect most of you are 20-25 years old and simply don't remember the Cold War and all the propaganda machinations of the Ruskies. They have ENTIRE departments in their government (then and now) dedicated to inventing lies to spread. They spend billions on such projects. Today with the Internet, it makes their job much easier than it used to be. A conspiracy comes from the Kremlin and they quickly spread it on social media (with American looking accounts). Before you know it, it's on Gateway Pundit and then here. And the whole time the Ruskies are sitting back taking a swig of vodka and laughing at your gullibility.

The Russians are MASTERS of propaganda. It's what commies do. Go and read about some of their old exploits during the USSR. Some of the stuff they did to spread misinformation was quite impressive. They actually would hire scientists to write scientific papers (full of bullshite but plausible bullshite) and get it published in western journals. Before long they had even western scientists believing it. (Nuclear winter is one good example of this).
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30463 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:53 pm to
Have you paid attention to what the current batch of thieves in congress have done the last 20 years?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79150 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:58 pm to
It's a knee-jerk reaction to the actual credibility hits this country has taken (and self-inflicted)

It's unfortunate. The incredible bias and propaganda from the mainstream (left) has sent the masses running to crazies on the other end of the spectrum. And in this black-white dichotomy the rule is to question everything about the opposition and do no introspection as to the sources we're regurgitating over here.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1250 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:03 pm to
Conspiracy theory is a deflecting phrase they came up with to avoid or undermine institutional analysis.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24600 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:03 pm to
Funny how all the "conspiracies" seem to come to fruition. I'm pretty sure Putin is smarter than potato, the only people getting played is the American people.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:04 pm to
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Why Must Everything Be a Conspiracy?

Because the officially accepted "news" is 100% lies.
Conspiracies are the new truth.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12885 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:04 pm to
Do you trust our media and government after all the lies they’ve told?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68085 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:04 pm to
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Funny how all the "conspiracies" seem to come to fruition
They have?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46008 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:04 pm to
Don’t blame the American people for losing all faith and trust in the federal government and it’s related agencies. Same goes with the Gaslight Media, they also have no credibility.

If you can honestly analyze what’s been going in the US the past 30 years and in particular the past 5 years and still trust any government institutions or mainstream media outlets you’re rapidly becoming part of a minority. Trust, integrity, righteousness and believability has been destroyed by corrupt people in nearly every position of power.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:05 pm to
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only people getting played is the American people.

The Ukrainian citizens have it pretty bad as well
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:06 pm to
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1) America caused Russia's actions

Putin is reacting, more accurately
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2) Russia is just there to fight Nazi's

There are 30 parts to this answer, the Azov Battalion trashing Russians in Ukraine is just one of them
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3) America is creating bio-weapons in Ukraine (despite a worldwide ban on such projects).

Uhhh...it's just true. Deal with it. The people in our government is not innocent little flowers, they are malicious nefarious fricks.
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4) Russia hasn't lost 4,000 soldiers, it's all propaganda

Inaccurate numbers are propaganda...so is everything else out of the media
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5) NWO wants us in WWIII. If this was true, then why isn't NATO attacking Russia right now? What's the hold-up? Why is Poland bending over backwards not to take credit for sending jets to Ukraine (as one example)? Why is Biden refusing a no-fly zone?

Speculation...technically not a conspiracy theory because it hasn't happened yet.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46008 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:07 pm to
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Funny how all the "conspiracies" seem to come to fruition
They have?


Remember Trump/Russia collusion? That one wasn’t true because the American Marxists and never Trumpers hatched that shite show.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:09 pm to
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Russia is just there to fight Nazi's.


I don’t believe this, but Ukraine has a lot of fricking Nazis.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8203 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:14 pm to
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They have?

Yes, Jake, they have.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36761 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:15 pm to
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They have?


No.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12885 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Remember Trump/Russia collusion? That one wasn’t true


The left still believes this is true
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Conspiracy theory is a deflecting phrase they came up with to avoid or undermine institutional analysis.



Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24822 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:16 pm to
@AUstar - Do you accept or reject that the Steele Dossier was wholly a work of DNC paid for operatives and designed to smear the reputation of a candidate and then sitting President for overtly and purely political reasons.

Further, do you accept or reject that the very highest levels of the US gov, the DOJ and FBI worked in collaboration (collusion) to railroad said 'dossier' through the FISA court which then illegally issued 4 warrants?

Give those answers, and then ask yourself about 'conspiracies'.


Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79150 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:17 pm to
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They have?



10% of a thing will come true and the 90% is ignored or claimed as part of the 10.

But the reality is that the death of authority/expertise has allowed that absurdity to flourish.
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4423 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:17 pm to
America has a propaganda arm that is even better than the Russkies. It’s called the Dimocrat Party. Russia ain’t got nothing on those people….
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