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re: Why isn't the Trinity mentioned in the bible?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:25 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:25 am to AggieHank86
Like water, ice and vapor are three forms of H2O.
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Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:26 am to ruffleforeskin
You know what word is mentioned a few times? Blasphemer. You should maybe go look that one up.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:27 am to RAB
quote:Quite often, in fact. Have you ever read any of the scholarship regarding the book? Something that was not produced from a religious source?
Have you ever cracked open a New Testament?
quote:Written almost 100 years after his death, by someone who had never met him, or even anyone who had ever met anyone who had ever met him.
The Gospel of John in particular is ALL about explaining the divinity of Jesus.
Even most thinking Christians recognize the Gospel of John as being … problematic … In the context of the other Gospels.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:30 am to FooManChoo
quote:Unlike many on the site, I do not think you’re an idiot.
FooManChoo
Certainly you realize the inherent in validity of using Christian theology to “prove” Christian theology.
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 9:31 am
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:33 am to El Segundo Guy
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Why in the frick is this even a topic on a POLITICAL TALK forum?
There used to be a ban on religious topics. Too controversial.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:33 am to deltaland
quote:You will one day know the truth of that. I hope for your sake, you figure it out earlier.
What if Jesus was just an elaborate troll who tricked billions into following him for centuries instead of the true God thus condemning them to hell for eternity
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:34 am to AggieHank86
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inherent in validity of using Christian theology to “prove” Christian theology
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Have you ever read any of the scholarship regarding the book? Something that was not produced from a religious source?
I see the problem. You’ll instantly discredit info from sources including scripture, and scholarly works produced by adherents to the religion, but you believe you’ll get unbiased information from secular sources about any religion.
Secular sources will always be anti when it comes to religion.
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 9:35 am
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:35 am to ruffleforeskin
Would you let Jesus take the wheel? Or would the fact that he lived 2000 years ago and never drove a car convince you not to put your trust in Him?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:36 am to ruffleforeskin
RAed.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:36 am to AggieHank86
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Written almost 100 years after his death, by someone who had never met him, or even anyone who had ever met anyone who had ever met him.
Even most thinking Christians recognize the Gospel of John as being … problematic … In the context of the other Gospels.
I suppose a "thinking Christian" is someone who agrees with you?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:37 am to FooManChoo
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One God, three persons
The Father is not a person.
The holy spirit is the spirit (action of the Father on Earth), and not a person.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:38 am to ruffleforeskin
ruffleforeskin: The Bible never says Jesus is God.
People point to Jesus explicitly claiming to be God.
ruffleforeskin: That part of the Bible doesn't count.
Again, if some of you just want religious arguments come out and say so. Why pretend that you're asking an honest question?
People point to Jesus explicitly claiming to be God.
ruffleforeskin: That part of the Bible doesn't count.
Again, if some of you just want religious arguments come out and say so. Why pretend that you're asking an honest question?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:38 am to ruffleforeskin
It’s pretty clear there are three different beings but one in purpose.
Anyone thinking differently are not paying attention
Anyone thinking differently are not paying attention
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:39 am to ruffleforeskin
Each member is mentioned, they’re just not given that nickname.
I mean, we all know who the Brat Pack is, but they weren’t referred to as such in their movies.
I mean, we all know who the Brat Pack is, but they weren’t referred to as such in their movies.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:39 am to AggieHank86
The earliest fragment of the Bible we have is p52, which is a scrap of papyrus the size of a credit card. It’s a manuscript of the gospel of John dated from the first century to the middle of the second.
The early church fathers also referenced John. For example, Clement of Rome (35 - 99 AD) mentioned it was the last gospel to be written. It would have to had been written in the 1st century for that to be the case.
The early church fathers also referenced John. For example, Clement of Rome (35 - 99 AD) mentioned it was the last gospel to be written. It would have to had been written in the 1st century for that to be the case.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:40 am to AggieHank86
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Written almost 100 years after his death, by someone who had never met him, or even anyone who had ever met anyone who had ever met him. Even most thinking Christians recognize the Gospel of John as being … problematic … In the context of the other Gospels.
What Wiki/reddit are you quoting here?
The most commonly held late date for John is around 100 and plenty of scholars put it before 70.
John isn’t problematic to thinking Christians. That’s one of the dumber things that will be posted on this board today. It’s problematic to non-Christians.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:41 am to AggieHank86
quote:Thank you for the backhanded compliment
Unlike many on the site, I do not think you’re an idiot.
quote:I was describing what the Trinity is, not proving it from the WSC.
Certainly you realize the inherent in validity of using Christian theology to “prove” Christian theology.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:42 am to AggieHank86
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verse 62 does not say that Jesus was claiming to BE God, it says that he was claiming to be the Son of God.
He is one with God. He clearly stated that. God is one and Christ, God and the Holy Spirit are three and are separate from one another. But at the same time they are all God and one.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:43 am to AggieHank86
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Written almost 100 years after his death, by someone who had never met him, or even anyone who had ever met anyone who had ever met him.
60 years. Apostle of Christ and last surviving member of the 12, banished to the isle of Patmos after being boiled in oil. Witness to the transfiguration and crucifixion. Steward of the mother of Jesus. But sure.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:44 am to Lynxrufus2012
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58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
Jesus didn't claim to be the I Am.
Jn12:49
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For I have not spoken of Myself; but the Father who sent Me, He gave Me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak.
Jesus spoke the words the Father gave him. It was the Father speaking.
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