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re: Why is Trump trending so badly in the betting odds?

Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by Vandergriff
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:02 pm to
Yep. I want Trump to win. I mean a Harris presidency will be a disaster in so many ways...

But the truth is in the BG states where he must win he's not doing as well as he should be in a year when the economy blows and the border is out of control. Should be a layup for him especially considering his opponent...but it's not.

It is what it is. Hopefully he pulls it out but he is currently in trouble.

Needs to focus on the only 2 things that matter: the economy and the border. That's it.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176001 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:07 pm to
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I’m not trolling and I’m a huge Trump fan. I literally posted the updated odds

Average betting odds are about 52-46

Now compare that to 2016 and 2020

Some of y’all don’t remember how bad things looked back then. Trump is greatly out-performing 2016 and 2020.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13411 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:09 pm to
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No she hasn’t. Some shitty quality polls came out after the debate showing her up 5. The thing is those polls already had her up 5 before the debate. There was no polling bump if the lead is the same after the debate.

Idk what all Silver uses in his models but Trump has gone from 64% to 48% probability since the debate.
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
1629 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:10 pm to
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But the truth is in the BG states where he must win he's not doing as well as he should be in a year when the economy blows and the border is out of control. Should be a layup for him especially considering his opponent...but it's not.


Mainstream poll after mainstream poll has Trump within the MOE and in much better position than 16 or 20.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176001 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:14 pm to
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Idk what all Silver uses in his models but Trump has gone from 64% to 48% probability since the debate.

Models aren’t polls. Nate jizzed over a few polls showing Kamala up in PA despite the last four polls from PA showing Trump winning or tied.

She has a commanding 1 point average lead in PA. Hillary and Biden were up 6.6 and 4 on Trump in PA on this date.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

quote:How many people actually win at gambling


All of them, just ask.



Haaaaa
You win
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15258 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:38 pm to
She has zero hope of winning our country is not that stupid
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10660 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:41 pm to
Please explain how the house makes 10 points on all bets?

Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
6235 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:43 pm to
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That is bad because betting odds historically slant Republican if my memory is correct
Trump was never ahead on Predictit (overtaken now in popularity by Polymarket) until the night of the election. Yes, you can still bet as results are coming in.
He surged ahead until I went asleep at midnight and we all know what happened next.
I follow this trend multiple times a day. There is no “smart money” on this right now. It’s ALL poll driven.

CNN very recently did a segment that took the current polls, adjusted for the level of poll misses in 2020 and he lands at 312 electoral.

I am very bullish on a Trump victory. We have historical data from 2 elections that both vastly underpolled Trumps support. They have not magically figured this out.

On one note, the popular poll aggregators that predict the outcome assign “high quality polls” and historical accuracy has nothing to do with it. Atlas, Rasmussen and Trafalgor were the best pollsters in 2020 and are shite on by the experts. Nate Silver adds some “fundamentals” that are favorable to Trump but weighs some really bad historical polling firms very highly.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:47 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22843 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:46 pm to
I don’t really care about betting odds in this case. They have billions to spend and could easily manipulate the lines.

To be clear, I don’t consider betting lines for a political candidate a fair market.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65855 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:24 pm to
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he's not doing as well as he should be in a year when the economy blows and the border is out of control. Should be a layup for him especially considering his opponent...but it's not.


Turns out abortion creates a lot of single issue voters.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Vandergriff
Member since Nov 2020
1528 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:33 pm to
Oh my sweet summer child.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
7872 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:35 pm to
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Probably because there's a decent chance of him getting assassinated before he can '

This. The chances of that happening are baked into the current odds.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
6235 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12674 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:56 pm to
Go back to your handlers…
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52687 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 1:22 am to
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Now I already have the preconceived notion baked in that no matter how many votes Trump gets they’re going to find enough Kamala votes to convince everyone she won.

This is a likely explanation. That a lot of Trump supporters, who would otherwise bet on him, are skeptical of the steal.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57393 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 2:21 am to
There is no better example of a feaux intellectual than you. You aren’t smart. You aren’t educated. Yet you come on here daily and pretend you are. If I could buy you for what you are actually worth and sell you for what you think you’re worth I’d be a rich man.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13263 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 3:54 am to
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He won the debate

Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
2730 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 6:07 am to
There are many here that think Trump will win in a “Landslide”.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28102 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 6:40 am to
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She has been rising in the polls.


How do you raise in the polls when you answer every question with the same old lame arse rehearsed answer.


Well Okra you see I was raised in a middle class family blah blah blah blah
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