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re: Why have Trump, Rudy, et al waited so long to publicly release their evidence?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:43 am to oogabooga68
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:43 am to oogabooga68
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bullshite.
I'm sorry that not being an NPC is difficult for you to understand.
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:43 am to SlowFlowPro
Gave you the options. Why don't you go sit in the corner and figure out which one it is.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:43 am to the808bass
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You have a bunch of suburbanite and urbanites who would rather be cool and part of the system than admit the government is well on its way to becoming an authoritarian monster. Unless you’re talking about real criminals, then they will prattle on like the useless hens that they are about social justice reform and the need for examination of our incarceration rates. They have no ability to think past what they’re told to think.
If the government distributed law with an iron fist across the board, id at least have some respect for the "technically they did break the law" angle.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:44 am to BBONDS25
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Have you ignored the mountains of evidence that have been produced?
You and I have a very different idea of evidence.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:45 am to NC_Tigah
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I don't give a rat's arse about a "defamation" suit against D’Souza.
You should. It's his opportunity to prove his allegations as being truthful. We'll see if that happens this time, finally.
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You intimated in raising the issue that vote harvesting is perfectly fine because it is legal.
More like it's legitimate because it was legal.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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Mackey was charged 19 days after J6, after the Trump DOJ/FBI investigated him for months
More evidence the legal system is trash.
The trump doj comment is particularly shitty given we know the doj is rotten to its core with democrats.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:46 am to Turbeauxdog
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More evidence the legal system is trash.
The trump doj comment is particularly shitty given we know the doj is rotten to its core with democrats.
Cool.
The prosecution had nothing to do with "dissent" or J6.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:47 am to oogabooga68
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Again, you're a pussy who won't answer for fear of having your sources scrutinized.
It’s his schtick.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
Are the video of people ballot harvesting in GA in 2000 Mules not evidence of ballot harvesting?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:49 am to No Colors
quote:There is an old adage, “one who represents himself in court has a fool for a client.” Perhaps you've heard of it. Powell certainly has.
Sidney Powell is a lawyer. She could have represented herself.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:49 am to GumboPot
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Are the video of people ballot harvesting in GA in 2000 Mules not evidence of ballot harvesting?
I don't think this is been used in any sort of trial so I don't know how strong this is or if it purports to show what is being claimed.
Like I said, DDS has his shot to actually publish evidence to back up his claims in the lawsuit against him. If he actually does this then he'll be the first to do it. We just have to wait to see if we finally get our number one
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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The prosecution had nothing to do with "dissent" or J6.
This is a hilariously laughable take.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think this is been used in any sort of trial
You want me to give you a hand in moving the goalposts?
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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The prosecution had nothing t
I know.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:00 am to NC_Tigah
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There is an old adage, “one who represents himself in court has a fool for a client.” Perhaps you've heard of it. Powell certainly has.
I mean prior to the criminal prosecution she admitted it was all a charade, basically.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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Like I said, DDS has his shot to actually publish evidence to back up his claims in the lawsuit against him. If he actually does this then he'll be the first to do it. We just have to wait to see if we finally get our number one
The best case brought to the courts IIRC was the case brought by Texas. SCOTUS refused to hear it because Roberts is concerned about the reputation of the court. It was the case concerning disparate treatment of states as it pertains to the constitutional requirement that state legislatures make election law. Most states relied on election law passed by state legislatures as required by the constitution and GA, PA and maybe a couple of others relied on the fiat rulings of secretaries of state for 2020 election law/rules.
It was a perfect case for SCOTUS to take up. A disagreement between states as it pertains how to constitutionally apply election law. Roberts said, "frick that" and punted.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:03 am to the808bass
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You want me to give you a hand in moving the goalposts?
It's been discredited outside of trial, if that's what you wanted to hear.
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The cases have gained attention across conservative social media following the release this month of “2000 Mules,” a movie promoted by right-wing activist Dinesh D’Souza that alleges that thousands such individuals participated in a vast criminal conspiracy to collect and return tens of thousands of ballots in 2020.
The board’s action Tuesday cast doubt on the premise of the movie, which claims to use cellphone tracking data along with video surveillance of individuals depositing ballots in drop boxes to make its case.
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State investigators tracked down the man, who told them that he had dropped off ballots for members of his household — himself, his wife and three adult children — as allowed under state law. The investigators corroborated his story by looking up the voting records of all five family members and confirming that their ballots were deposited in that drop box on the day the surveillance footage was recorded.
The investigators found similar circumstances with the other two complaints, noting that all the ballots belonged to legal voters and were deposited by qualifying household members.
The chairman of the elections board, Matt Mashburn, thanked the activists who filed the complaint for spending many hours poring over surveillance footage, though he noted that even if the ballots had been harvested illegally, the votes would still be legal and it would have been proper for them to be counted.
I'm sure you're going to do nothing but claim that anything you disagree with is illegitimate, including an investigation by a state agency in a Republican administration.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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More like it's legitimate because it was legal.
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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quote:I didnt say Jan6 I said dissenters. Meme guy wasn't a dissenter. I hope you realize that categorizing him as a "dissenter" makes the criminal charge more valid. I doubt that is your intention. Mackey was charged 19 days after J6, after the Trump DOJ/FBI investigated him for months.
You seem to be under the impression that I think the US Justice system operates in good faith in a way that is moral and adheres to the US Constitution or that a conviction of a crime has some kind of bearing on my opinion. It doesnt.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:06 am to GumboPot
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The best case brought to the courts IIRC was the case brought by Texas. SCOTUS refused to hear it because Roberts is concerned about the reputation of the court.
No. It was because Texas lacked standing.
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It was a perfect case for SCOTUS to take up. A disagreement between states as it pertains how to constitutionally apply election law.
The problem is that there is no legal or procedural way for Texas to create this claim.
This wasn't even a close decision. 7-2 and the 2 were iffy on any relief.
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