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re: Why Fyodor Dostoevsky disdained Catholicism

Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:37 pm to
Wrong

It’s an interesting topic
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:48 pm to
Now do "Notes From The Underground" where he destroys Protestantism and Calvinism.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:50 pm to
Crime and Punishment was boring as frick and took up about 4 of my Saturday afternoons my senior year. frick that guy.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:54 pm to
He ain’t wrong about Catholicism. The Reformation didn’t spring up out of the blue.
Posted by MKP2004
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:02 pm to
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Fyodor Dostoevsky viewed Roman Catholicism as a tragic distortion of true Christianity.



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In The Idiot, Prince Myshkin passionately argues that Catholicism is worse than atheism

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:08 pm to
The Russian isn’t wrong here.
Posted by AUveritas
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:25 pm to
I find it wildly ironic that Dostoevsky, a Russian Orthodox, accused the Roman Catholic Church of caesaropapsim.

From the Greek Orthodox and the Byzantine Empire to the Tsars and dictators of Russia and the Russian Orthodox Church, I don't see how the Eastern Orthodox Churches have the moral high ground here.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:54 pm to
I did my high school thesis paper on Crime and Punishment. Man that shite was awful.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:58 pm to
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Why Fyodor Dostoevsky disdained Catholicism


*And the Jews. He frigging hated the Jews.

Jordan Peterson, who I do like, was asked about that and crashed out on stage, metaphorically speaking. Didn't even address the guy's question.

Posted by BlackAdam
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 8:10 pm to
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From the Greek Orthodox and the Byzantine Empire to the Tsars and dictators of Russia and the Russian Orthodox Church, I don't see how the Eastern Orthodox Churches have the moral high ground here.


There is nothing closer to a state religion in all of Christianity than the Russian Orthodox Church. It is barely more than Kremlin controlled spy network.
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 8:33 pm to
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It’s an interesting topic

Agreed, he somewhat is a prototype of the Christian but not a member of a church type so prevalent now.

He hated priests but was all in on Jesus.

He had his own theology, but was aligned somewhat to the old believers, specifically those of the priest less variant.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:27 pm to
There’s a reason church and state should be separated. Find your Higher Power and follow it.
Posted by Neutral Underground
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:49 pm to
Of course a WASP is going to believe that they are superior. The United States has a history of being discrimatory against Catholics. Especially against the Irish.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:53 pm to
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Fyodor Dostoevsky disdained Catholicism
he should've dained it
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:09 pm to
The Grand Inquisitor chapter of the Bros. Karamazov has a depth of insight that goes beyond Dostoevsky's satire indicting churches that embrace earthly power.

But he indicts them very well.

A gem among them is the Grand Inquisitor scolding Christ for giving people the choice to believe by feigning concern over the inability of mankind to make the right decision. 

The Grand Inquisitor chastises Christ for rejecting earthly power, making it a choice to believe, treating man as His brother and dying on a cross to free believers from guilt without the need for rituals, thus making it hard for any statist church to claim dominion over His believers.

Thanks to his satire on the motives of Church hierarchy Dostoevsky inspires a more subtle, lasting thought: No power-seeking entity of this earth would invent Christianity and perpetuate it as presented in the Gospels.

It behooves no one but those of Faith to pass on Christ's teachings. 

Thus, the Gospel surviving through the hands of corrupt Popes is something of a miracle in itself.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:22 am to
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Of course a WASP is going to believe that they are superior. The United States has a history of being discrimatory against Catholics. Especially against the Irish.
It was importantly to most of the colonies that the true religion be practiced. It’s why most were Protestant.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:28 am to
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The Reformation didn’t spring up out of the blue.


True enough. The Catholic Reformation was a response to years of abuse within the Church. Fortunately those abuses were corrected by the Council of Trent, which concluded in 1563.

The Protestant Revolution (which you no doubt originally referred to) was a greedy power play by various monarchs across central and western Europe to increase their power and influence at the expense of the Church.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:30 am to
Aren't you a Jehovah's witness
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 1:16 am to
Russian Orthodoxy is about as merged with the state as it gets in Christianity. The Orthodox have multiple grievances with Catholicism… some are more valid than others.

The Brothers Karamazov is too depressing even for a Russian novel.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:27 am to
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The Protestant Revolution (which you no doubt originally referred to) was a greedy power play by various monarchs across central and western Europe to increase their power and influence at the expense of the Church.
Possibly. King Henry certainly took advantage of the opportunity to spit in the Pope’s face for his own selfish reasons, but Protestants across Europe were not being martyred merely for politics or to be pawns of the state. They truly believed they were being faithful to Christ by rejecting abuse and recovering scriptural doctrine.
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