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Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?

Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:22 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:22 am
Like a Plato or Socrates

Think the world would be a better place if we did.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:25 am to
All of today's best philosophers post on the OT.
Posted by truthbetold
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:25 am to
Isn't that what modern theoretical physicists are? I'd say Hawking is that guy.
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:26 am to
We do, they write Country songs.
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Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:26 am to
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Like a Plato or Socrates


IMO, these guys were intellectually superior to those around them so people respected the two because of that intelligence.

Today - everybody thinks they are Plato and Socrates in the intelligence department.
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:28 am to
We do. His name is Donald John Trump and his best philosophical treatise is The Art of the Deal.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:29 am to
WFB explained it many years ago. Plato and Socrates (and other famous philosophers) existed in a time when the whole set of 'knowable things' was very small. Therefore, a great mind could know perhaps half of everything that was knowable.
Today the set of knowable things is much too large for a human to become expert in more than 1% of all knowledge that exists.
Posted by Perfect Circle
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:39 am to
Probably because philosophy itself isn't held in high esteem.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:40 am to
Hawking is not much of a philosopher. Out of the physicists alive today, I'd say Roger Penrose is clearly the most gifted in terms of being able to think philosophically.

The string theorists are all hopeless over-fitting engineers.
Posted by chity
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:42 am to
There are no original thoughts anymore.

Everything has already been considered.

If you think you have an original idea, you will find out someone has already beat you to it.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:44 am to
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Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?


Jacques Derrida happened, and now no respectable person wants to be a philosopher anymore.

I kid... a little bit... but existentialism and continental philosophy really is absurd and ridiculous. No sane person should want to have anything to do with that crap.

For the last few centuries, the British had the best tradition in philosophy, but after WWII the socialist, nanny-state PC culture of the U.K. just killed everything in the realm of free thinking.

The best philosophers of today are probably around Stanford and Silicon Valley.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:44 am to
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Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?


The same reason politicians are no longer called the solons of government anymore.

From Merriam-Webster - solon: a wise and skillful lawgiver.

It's an intelligence deficiency in both cases.
Posted by MadDoggyStyle
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:48 am to
Not to be disagreeable, but we do have Maxine Waters.
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:49 am to
Science killed philosophy roughly around the turn of the 20th century.

NOTE: I am talking about systematic philosophy dealing with topics like epistemology and the philosophy of mind, etc. The stuff that the greats like Hume and Kant used to argue about.

There's plenty of political philosophy (socialism) and "ethics" (SJW's) but very little real philosophy anymore.
This post was edited on 10/21/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:49 am to
Because people with liberal arts degrees are losers
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:54 am to
You realize they executed Socrates, right?

The general population has never been particularly fond of revolutionary thinkers during their time. Nietzsche was practically a nobody until years after his death.

In short, it wouldn’t surprise me for someone we’ve never heard to be a household name a hundred years from now.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:54 am to
We do.

Their names are Parker and Stone.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 9:08 am to
I'm not sure what you mean. There are a ton of scientists across various disciplines who provide very interesting and important philosophical arguments.

There is just so many more disciplines that one rarely is just a philosopher.

Just read Nassim Taleb's twitter. He may be famous for his analytical skills but he is ruthless when it comes to some troubling trends in academia regarding the philosophy of science.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 9:10 am to
WWII sent Western philosophy into the shitter.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 9:13 am to
quote:

There are a ton of scientists across various disciplines who provide very interesting and important philosophical arguments.



Yes but it seems that philosophers don't become 'highly regarded' until after they are dead.
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