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re: Why doesnt America invest in Americans?

Posted on 9/16/25 at 10:38 am to
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 10:38 am to
Each dollar not invested in the people is a waste and might as well be lit on fire.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
7188 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 10:42 am to
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Look at the economics of poland. It's not shocking why their economy is crushing the rest of the world rn. They have free education, free Healthcare, high minimum wage $8.50 USD and cost of living is 32% lower than the US. Also rent is 55% cheaper.


They're also a homogenous society.

But you're cherry-picking here. Now do the cost of living in every other western country that offers free everything...
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 10:42 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 10:52 am to
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Each dollar not invested in the people is a waste and might as well be lit on fire.

Our programs are bandaids rather than investments in the future.

We will give someone hundreds of dollars in food stamps 80 years rather than spend money to train them to do something useful that would create a return on investment in taxes
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 10:52 am
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56772 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 10:59 am to
It’s our fault, we are sheep. All we have to do is stop paying taxes and it all comes to an end. We can force reconstruction.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 10:59 am to
Thats a fact
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:16 am to
Agree, we would not only save but also create personal wealth by training people's job skills.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16874 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:20 am to
Most of those people don't want training and work. Just cut off the entitlements, hungry people will start figuring it out.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2988 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:27 am to
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Look at the economics of poland.


quote:

1 Warsaw 1,702,139
2 Lodz 768,755
3 Krakow 755,050
4 Wroclaw 634,893
5 Poznan 570,352
6 Gdansk 461,865
7 Szczecin 407,811
8 Bydgoszcz 366,452
9 Lublin 360,044
10 Katowice 317,316
11 Bialystok 291,855
12 Czestochowa 248,125
13 Gdynia 244,969
14 Sosnowiec 227,295
15 Radom 226,794
16 Mokotow 217,683
17 Kielce 208,598
18 Gliwice 198,835
19 Torun 198,613
20 Zabrze 192,177
21 Bytom 189,186
22 Praga Poludnie 179,836
23 Bielsko-Biala 176,515
24 Olsztyn 171,803
25 Rzeszow 158,382
26 Ursynow 150,668
27 Ruda Slaska 146,189
28 Rybnik 142,510
29 Wola 140,958
30 Bielany 134,854


Poland is 98% white. Their cities are the size of American suburbs... not blue lawless megatropolis's.

These are also factors.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:30 am to
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Poland is 98% white.

Ah so you think non-whites arent capable of being economically productive?

Well if thats the case what is your alternative solution?
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3082 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:56 am to
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B). Socialized programs tend to work much better in smaller nations with more homogenous and like-minded populations, like Poland and some of the Nordic countries.


If our tax payer money would stay within the borders of the US, and not outsourced, we could fund those programs too.

If Social Security was privatized individual gov backed bonds with 6% guaranteed return, then people would create wealth.

Many government programs could be turned into America first programs, but then our politicians couldn’t steal our taxpayer dollars.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17702 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 12:03 pm to
It amazes me to this day that people want the United States government running healthcare. Unreal.

And that is how it should be referred to. It is only free healthcare for those that don't pay taxes. Do not refer to it as free. What it should be referred to is the government run healthcare.

Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10452 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 12:32 pm to
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How can a country with so many less resources like poland have their citizens average cost of living be down to around $800 a month when just housing is double that?


Democrats brought in 10s of millions of illegals and insist on giving welfare to every lazy POS in the country. That has a tendency to increase costs.

Aren't you a democrat? Your post history suggests you are.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19854 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 12:45 pm to
We’ve invested tens of trillions in social welfare programs over the last 60 years, and it has had a net negative effect. Education, too.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 12:54 pm to
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We’ve invested tens of trillions in social welfare programs over the last 60 years, and it has had a net negative effect. Education, too.

Because we approach it the wrong way. Republicans have brainwashed people to think of welfare as a handout rather than an investment towards future growth because thats what it is currently. We would rather apply bandaids than approach the fundamental issue

You saying investing in education has a net negative effect is a great example of how strongly they have convinced you.

Meanwhile poland has done it heavily and the results show they pay in dividends.

If you can get to the problems before they arise you can prevent a lot of citizens from becoming tax burdens for life
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 12:57 pm
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19854 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 1:00 pm to
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Because we approach it the wrong way. Republicans have brainwashed people to think of welfare as a handout rather than an investment towards future growth because thats what it is currently.


It’s the republicans’ fault. It always is.

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You saying investing in education has a net negative effect is a great example of how strongly they have convinced you.


I was saying that annually dumping more and more money into our education system has not resulted into better outcomes. We’ve regressed tremendously.

Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14550 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 1:03 pm to
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If you can get to the problems before they arise you can prevent a lot of citizens from becoming tax burdens for life

The problem is "the people".
You can throw all the money at schools you want - but if the family unit / community doesn't value education and discipline, then it's a waste.
Look at Baltimore.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3649 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Corinthians420
If you would like to move to Poland, let me know. I'll be glad to help you pack.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 1:11 pm to
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It’s the republicans’ fault. It always is.


Republican Party =/= to conservatives.

Conservatives arent the problem, the party not representing conservative fiscal policies are.

Democrats are worse. But there is no talking sense to people that vote for democrats
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7689 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 1:18 pm to
“The Free Market is great sure, but not if it means my kids won’t be able to get jobs and have to live in a 3rd world hellscape.”

Free markets, or at least relatively free markets, provide the innovation and rising productivity that allows to leave relatively prosperous lives. Almost everything “bad” is the result of family breakdown, moral decay, and the misguided social policies that do more harm than good (e.g., changes in laws regarding involuntary commitment of the mentally ill).
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9904 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 1:31 pm to
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Look at the economics of poland. It's not shocking why their economy is crushing the rest of the world rn. They have free education, free Healthcare, high minimum wage $8.50 USD and cost of living is 32% lower than the US. Also rent is 55% cheaper.


Everything you just said is bullshite. I have several Polish tenants living and working in Germany. Cost of living is about the same as Germany ,yet in Poland the income is about half. Unless you are in a highly technical field you won't make money there and most are house poor. Thier healthcare isn't good, one of my tenants told me that they have to wait up to 3 weeks for an x-ray and seeing a doctor isn't that fast. They are making strides in the right direction ,but are still underdeveloped in many areas.
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