re: Why does our educational system glorify stem and 4 year degrees?

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My brother is a chemist. I fix every plumbing issue he has. He's completely lost.

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So you just knew how to plumb and have done it intuitively. That’s pretty cool.

Two kids in college, one graduated from UGA and is in med school to become a doctor. She will benefit greatly from her education. My other, third year at a smaller college. It doesn't break the bank for me, but he will probably not get much out of his degree. He was behind socially a little out of high school, so I guess college has grown him a bit in that aspect. I went to UGA for three years, then had a job opportunity come up that I couldn't refuse, so never finished my degree. In my life, I have only ever been asked once if I had a college degree during a job interview. It was an interview for a position at Duke University as their assistant golf professional. A job that the salary was like $35,000. Needless to say, I didn't get the job, got out of the golf business, and now have my own company making 10 times what I could have possibly made staying in the golf industry.

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shite doesn't flow up hill

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It can.

due to funding and report cards on school. However they’ve moved away from just college now. I live in Texas. The schools report card is based off the normal stuff but also how many kids leave high school and go to college or have some sort of certificate when they leave(like auto mechanic) or military. The push now is college, career, military readiness. So every kid falls into a e of the three categories.

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And I am actually really good with this idea. Trade schools that teach the trades but also teach day to day living skills too.

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I’m all for parents teaching their kids to wipe their own arse. Day to day living skills is why children have parents.

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The issue is when you get degrees that have no use in the job market. Several degrees are great if you continue to law school or phd level but often just a bachelors isn’t going to cut it. Ie psychology, criminal justice, history, etc.

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I’m still in the camp that there is no such thing as worthless degrees. Trying to equate degree programs with specific career paths is nearly impossible. If you look at resumes you will see people in all types of careers with undergraduate degrees you might not expect. The pushback on education is a weird part of the culture wars that seems completely misplaced.

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It can.

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Depends on head pressure or a pump.

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I’m still in the camp that there is no such thing as worthless degrees. Trying to equate degree programs with specific career paths is nearly impossible. If you look at resumes you will see people in all types of careers with undergraduate degrees you might not expect. The pushback on education is a weird part of the culture wars that seems completely misplaced.

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You are correct.

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I’m still in the camp that there is no such thing as worthless degrees.

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Hell, I've run across people with worthless engineering degrees. I get the point that learning is learning, but the value must be taken into consideration (for most people) and there are actual harmful courses of study out there.

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Sounds like I'm right.

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Well, you think you're right about everything and would never admit if you weren't because you're one of the most arrogant, egotistical people to ever walk on this earth and you think only worthless ambulance chasers can think logically.