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re: Why does it feel like we’re letting Iran dictate everything to us?
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:09 pm to Bass Tiger
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:09 pm to Bass Tiger
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And why is that?
If I was only given one answer, it would be the media.
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:14 pm to Indefatigable
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And why is that?
If I was only given one answer, it would be the media.
Where did the members of the media develop/form their political worldview?
Where did the legal professionals in the judiciary develop/form their political worldview?
Where did the teachers/professors in academia develop/form their political worldview?
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:16 pm to cbree88
It feels that way because that is what is happening my guy.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:18 pm to Tiger985
Not every war is Iraq and Afghanistan. Would we need to insert some ground troops to finish this off the right way? The answer is yes. It wouldn’t take a major invasion though like Iraq and Afghanistan. We would most definitely need the Marines to take a few Islands in the Strait of Hormuz. Outside of that though you are talking about very limited and specific use of ground troops. Mainly SF guys that go into places you never hear about execute a mission and then come home.
We have factors going for us in Iran that we never had in both Iraq wars and Afghanistan. Most of the population of Iran support the US efforts in Iran. We never had that in Iraq or Afghanistan. Those populations had more in common with the terrorist than they did us. Not so in Iran. Older Iranians grew in a western style society. I have saw a few pictures of woman in Iran wearing short skirts and dresses before the Islamic Revolution. A huge chunk of the population would help fight if we gave them weapons. So this situation would be 100% different than Iraq or Afghanistan. We don’t have to go in with a big ground invasion and take the country. We just need to keep bombing the IRGC radicals and the radical political leaders left and make sure they are discombobulated and combat ineffective. Once that happens the people could do the bulk of the fighting. Some US SF guys may need to go in and keep the people coordinated and do some fighting yes. Nothing to the size and scope compared to Iraq and Afghanistan though.
We have factors going for us in Iran that we never had in both Iraq wars and Afghanistan. Most of the population of Iran support the US efforts in Iran. We never had that in Iraq or Afghanistan. Those populations had more in common with the terrorist than they did us. Not so in Iran. Older Iranians grew in a western style society. I have saw a few pictures of woman in Iran wearing short skirts and dresses before the Islamic Revolution. A huge chunk of the population would help fight if we gave them weapons. So this situation would be 100% different than Iraq or Afghanistan. We don’t have to go in with a big ground invasion and take the country. We just need to keep bombing the IRGC radicals and the radical political leaders left and make sure they are discombobulated and combat ineffective. Once that happens the people could do the bulk of the fighting. Some US SF guys may need to go in and keep the people coordinated and do some fighting yes. Nothing to the size and scope compared to Iraq and Afghanistan though.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:19 pm to cbree88
Because Iran will send drones and missiles across the Middle East and into the straight of Hormuz and wreck the region and world economy. We don’t have the technology to stop this and what we do have we are limited in production.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:22 pm to cbree88
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Why does it feel like we’re letting Iran dictate everything to us?
If I was a dicator and members of rhe presidents own party was capitulating to the lock step opposite party by scrambling to pull every last dollar possible to enforce anything.... I'd be taking that stance too.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:46 pm to RollingwiththeTide
You are deluded if you believe all that.
Iran would be 100x the job of Iraq or Afghanistan.
Do some homework and get back to me.
Iran would be 100x the job of Iraq or Afghanistan.
Do some homework and get back to me.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:47 pm to cbree88
I think Trump is going back in after the midterms.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:51 pm to diat150
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Because Iran will send drones and missiles across the Middle East and into the straight of Hormuz and wreck the region and world economy. We don’t have the technology to stop this and what we do have we are limited in production.
Our interceptors can stop 95% of the missiles (still not good enough as one can destroy a refinery). The drones are a major problem but there is some good news in that hopefully Ukraine will be able to up its number of anti drone specialist teams and tech to the region soon.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:57 pm to cbree88
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I wish we would have finished the job and completely destroyed all their military installations and deposed their government months ago. They continue to stall and to refuse to negotiate in good faith like they always have.
There’s no negotiating with terrorists. Their goal is the destruction of the USA and Israel, and there’s no negotiating around that. Their mindset is radical, nonsensical, irrational, and blinded by hatred. You can’t negotiate with someone like that. All you can do is speak their language by using force to destroy them.
I don't disagree with your view of those death cult, evil, demonic pieces of shite running Iran.... but, Trump has the reality of midterm elections coming up.
This is a fact that he must take into consideration. Iran understands this and will use our Marxist MSM propaganda machine to it's full benefit.
After midterms, win or lose, Trump will be able to deal with Iran more severely.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:57 pm to AGGIES
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Because a superpower that acts like a clown circus doesn’t intimidate a non -superpower
Your untreated TDS is flaring.
You’re confusing on the of greatest military beat downs in history with Bidens withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:58 pm to Tiger985
Deluded is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. It’s been 47 years of nothing but hatred and evil directed towards the United States by this regime and we keep ignoring or punting the problem to the next generation. Sooner or later the American military will have to go to Iran and remove this threat. Now that we have them on the ropes and have them knocked down I prefer not having to pay for the same real estate twice. We can either choose to let the people serving over there now do their jobs and finish this now or we will be sending these same troops serving today kids or grandkids later. This regime is not going to stop. They will not behave. They will not change. They will build back and when we go back it will be twice as hard as it is now and twice as bloody. We are more than halfway there let’s just finish this now and not have to send these troops kids next generation later.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:01 pm to cbree88
Because we are.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:03 pm to cbree88
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I wish we would have finished the job and completely destroyed all their military installations and deposed their government months ago. They continue to stall and to refuse to negotiate in good faith like they always have. There’s no negotiating with terrorists. Their goal is the destruction of the USA and Israel, and there’s no negotiating around that. Their mindset is radical, nonsensical, irrational, and blinded by hatred. You can’t negotiate with someone like that. All you can do is speak their language by using force to destroy them.
It’s nice to wish this. Mostly because of your position re: “Iranians”.
This doesn’t jive with the reality of what “deposing their government” would require us to do.
Iran suffered one of the greatest beat downs in military history. Over one of the shortest beat down periods in military history.
To do what you wish would have resulted in Gaza level destruction of property and people.
I don’t really believe you wish what you think you wish.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:16 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Our interceptors can stop 95% of the missiles (still not good enough as one can destroy a refinery).
at what cost though? if an iranian drone costs 2000 and can be put together by a teenager in 2 hours with parts from amazon and we shoot it down with a 3 million dollar missile that takes a month to build we are losing.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:20 pm to jammajin
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It’s nice to wish this. Mostly because of your position re: “Iranians”.
This doesn’t jive with the reality of what “deposing their government” would require us to do.
Iran suffered one of the greatest beat downs in military history. Over one of the shortest beat down periods in military history.
Iran isnt fighting that type of war. of course they arent going to beat us in a dogfight with military jets and certainly arent going to beat us on the water in a battle with our naval fleet. they adapted.... but we havent adapted to beat them in what is now the modern style of warfare with drones and autonomous vehicles. so unless we want to start nuking or carpet bombing cities there isnt much we can do until drone defense is solved.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:41 pm to diat150
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but we havent adapted
Yes we have. You’re living in the first 3-4 days of combat with several isolated incidences. This has been widely discussed here and elsewhere
You want to pretend one doesn’t need both pieces of the equation to dominate. You want to pretend Iran did something other than get their asses kicked because they can buzz a drone or a bass boat out every 24 hours or so.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:49 pm to jammajin
man you are clown
Here's a compiled list of documented Iranian missile and drone strikes that caused destruction/damage since the 2026 Iran war began on 28 February 2026, drawn from Wikipedia's tracked incident list and related sourcing. Note that Iran's specific missile/drone *types* used in each individual strike are rarely confirmed publicly — most reporting identifies target, date, and damage rather than the weapon model — so I've noted type only where sourced.
## Israel
| Date | Target | Damage/Destruction |
|---|---|---|
| 28 Feb 2026 | Tel Aviv | Residential strike killed 1, injured 27 |
| 28 Feb 2026 | Northern Israel | 9-story building hit, 1 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Beit Shemesh | Ballistic missile hit synagogue and homes; 9 killed, 65 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | West Jerusalem | Ballistic missile impact, 6 injured |
| 9 Mar 2026 | Yehud | Construction site hit; 2 killed, 2 injured |
| 13 Mar 2026 | Northern Israel | 58 injured |
| 14 Mar 2026 | Eilat | 2 injured |
| 21 Mar 2026 | Dimona | Missile strike, 60 injured |
| 21 Mar 2026 | Arad | Missile strike, 115 injured |
| 21 Mar 2026 | Tel Aviv/central Israel | Cluster-munition missile strike, 15 injured |
| 28 Mar 2026 | Tel Aviv | Building struck, 1 killed, 2 injured |
| ~Apr 2026 | (per Wikipedia summary) | Ballistic missile damaged an Israeli drone factory in Petah Tikva; fragments hit near IDF Kirya HQ, Tel Aviv; direct strike on Haifa residential building collapsed structure, killing 4 |
## Regional targets (Gulf states, Jordan, etc.)
| Date | Location | Damage |
|---|---|---|
| 28 Feb 2026 | Fairmont The Palm, Dubai | Iranian missile strike, fire, 4 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Crowne Plaza Hotel, Manama, Bahrain | Drone strike, fire |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Bahrain International Airport | Drone strike, minor damage |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Port Shuaiba, Kuwait | Drone attack killed 6 US servicemen, dozens wounded |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Etihad Towers, Abu Dhabi | Drone intercepted nearby, 2 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Al-Salam Naval Base, Abu Dhabi | Drone hit warehouse |
| 2 Mar 2026 | Mina Salman Port, Bahrain | Strike caused fire |
| 2 Mar 2026 | US Embassy, Kuwait City | Missile strike |
| 3 Mar 2026 | US Embassy, Riyadh | Drone strike, minor damage |
| 5 Mar 2026 | Nakhchivan Airport, Azerbaijan | Drone hit terminal, 4 injured |
| 19 Mar 2026 | SAMREF refinery, Yanbu, Saudi Arabia | Drone strike |
| 21–28 Mar 2026 | Prince Sultan Airbase, Saudi Arabia | Missile fragments wounded 29 US servicemen |
## Maritime attacks
| Date | Vessel | Outcome |
|---|---|---|
| 1 Mar 2026 | Skylight (tanker) | 4 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Hercules Star (tanker) | Projectile strike |
| 11 Mar 2026 | Safesea Vishnu (tanker) | Explosive boat attack, fire, 1 killed |
| Undated (~Jun 2026) | Mayuree Naree (Thai bulk ship) | Struck by 2 projectiles, engine-room fire |
| (Disputed) | USS Abraham Lincoln | IRGC claimed 4-missile strike; CENTCOM denies it was hit |
## Overall scale (through the ceasefire, ~8 April 2026)
Iran fired roughly 650 missile attacks toward Israel in the 40 days before the 8 April ceasefire, killing 24 people and causing more than 7,000 injuries. Regionally, totals across all targeted countries reached 1,770+ missiles and 3,955+ drones/UAVs, with the UAE alone absorbing 563 missiles and 2,256 drones.
**A caveat:** this data comes from a live-updated Wikipedia tracker compiled during an active, still-unfolding conflict (fighting between the US and Iran resumed as recently as June 26–28, 2026). Casualty figures, attributions, and even which side fired a given projectile are contested in several entries, and specific missile/drone *model* names (Shahed, Fateh, etc.) aren't confirmed for most individual strikes. If you want, I can dig further into a specific incident or try to pin down which weapon systems were used in particular strikes.
Here's a compiled list of documented Iranian missile and drone strikes that caused destruction/damage since the 2026 Iran war began on 28 February 2026, drawn from Wikipedia's tracked incident list and related sourcing. Note that Iran's specific missile/drone *types* used in each individual strike are rarely confirmed publicly — most reporting identifies target, date, and damage rather than the weapon model — so I've noted type only where sourced.
## Israel
| Date | Target | Damage/Destruction |
|---|---|---|
| 28 Feb 2026 | Tel Aviv | Residential strike killed 1, injured 27 |
| 28 Feb 2026 | Northern Israel | 9-story building hit, 1 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Beit Shemesh | Ballistic missile hit synagogue and homes; 9 killed, 65 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | West Jerusalem | Ballistic missile impact, 6 injured |
| 9 Mar 2026 | Yehud | Construction site hit; 2 killed, 2 injured |
| 13 Mar 2026 | Northern Israel | 58 injured |
| 14 Mar 2026 | Eilat | 2 injured |
| 21 Mar 2026 | Dimona | Missile strike, 60 injured |
| 21 Mar 2026 | Arad | Missile strike, 115 injured |
| 21 Mar 2026 | Tel Aviv/central Israel | Cluster-munition missile strike, 15 injured |
| 28 Mar 2026 | Tel Aviv | Building struck, 1 killed, 2 injured |
| ~Apr 2026 | (per Wikipedia summary) | Ballistic missile damaged an Israeli drone factory in Petah Tikva; fragments hit near IDF Kirya HQ, Tel Aviv; direct strike on Haifa residential building collapsed structure, killing 4 |
## Regional targets (Gulf states, Jordan, etc.)
| Date | Location | Damage |
|---|---|---|
| 28 Feb 2026 | Fairmont The Palm, Dubai | Iranian missile strike, fire, 4 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Crowne Plaza Hotel, Manama, Bahrain | Drone strike, fire |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Bahrain International Airport | Drone strike, minor damage |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Port Shuaiba, Kuwait | Drone attack killed 6 US servicemen, dozens wounded |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Etihad Towers, Abu Dhabi | Drone intercepted nearby, 2 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Al-Salam Naval Base, Abu Dhabi | Drone hit warehouse |
| 2 Mar 2026 | Mina Salman Port, Bahrain | Strike caused fire |
| 2 Mar 2026 | US Embassy, Kuwait City | Missile strike |
| 3 Mar 2026 | US Embassy, Riyadh | Drone strike, minor damage |
| 5 Mar 2026 | Nakhchivan Airport, Azerbaijan | Drone hit terminal, 4 injured |
| 19 Mar 2026 | SAMREF refinery, Yanbu, Saudi Arabia | Drone strike |
| 21–28 Mar 2026 | Prince Sultan Airbase, Saudi Arabia | Missile fragments wounded 29 US servicemen |
## Maritime attacks
| Date | Vessel | Outcome |
|---|---|---|
| 1 Mar 2026 | Skylight (tanker) | 4 injured |
| 1 Mar 2026 | Hercules Star (tanker) | Projectile strike |
| 11 Mar 2026 | Safesea Vishnu (tanker) | Explosive boat attack, fire, 1 killed |
| Undated (~Jun 2026) | Mayuree Naree (Thai bulk ship) | Struck by 2 projectiles, engine-room fire |
| (Disputed) | USS Abraham Lincoln | IRGC claimed 4-missile strike; CENTCOM denies it was hit |
## Overall scale (through the ceasefire, ~8 April 2026)
Iran fired roughly 650 missile attacks toward Israel in the 40 days before the 8 April ceasefire, killing 24 people and causing more than 7,000 injuries. Regionally, totals across all targeted countries reached 1,770+ missiles and 3,955+ drones/UAVs, with the UAE alone absorbing 563 missiles and 2,256 drones.
**A caveat:** this data comes from a live-updated Wikipedia tracker compiled during an active, still-unfolding conflict (fighting between the US and Iran resumed as recently as June 26–28, 2026). Casualty figures, attributions, and even which side fired a given projectile are contested in several entries, and specific missile/drone *model* names (Shahed, Fateh, etc.) aren't confirmed for most individual strikes. If you want, I can dig further into a specific incident or try to pin down which weapon systems were used in particular strikes.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:50 pm to diat150
You are right about what you said about the cost of interceptor missiles vs drones and the time it takes to make each. That being said though we have no choice still.
Iran didn’t get the idea of shutting down the Strait and changing tolls on the fly. Whoever is in charge didn’t wake up one morning and a light bulb went off above his head. This has been planned out for a long time. I think Iran thought they need a nuke to threaten the USA with and to back us off when they eventually decided to do it. Well now they know they don’t need a nuke. All they need is enough drones along with ballistic and cruise missiles and they can make the US and the world lay down and take it because nobody wants to do what it takes to stop them. Trump and Bibi are the only two world leaders since I have been alive that’s even come close to slowing them down. Trump is the only US President they have ever even come close to respecting. Since this ceasefire I don’t even think Trump scares them anymore. They will be back somewhere down the road. Usually when we choose not to finish a job military and then have to go back later it always turns out worse. I wish we could do it another way and believe me if someone can come up with a better way I will be the first in line to support it. Until then we have the options we have. Letting Iran off the hook again will get us absolutely nowhere. Signing another agreement with them will not stop them or get Iran to change its future behavior. It will just be a minor speed bump for them. Taking out this regime was never a choice it was a requirement. It the only way to get just a chance of a different outcome.
Iran didn’t get the idea of shutting down the Strait and changing tolls on the fly. Whoever is in charge didn’t wake up one morning and a light bulb went off above his head. This has been planned out for a long time. I think Iran thought they need a nuke to threaten the USA with and to back us off when they eventually decided to do it. Well now they know they don’t need a nuke. All they need is enough drones along with ballistic and cruise missiles and they can make the US and the world lay down and take it because nobody wants to do what it takes to stop them. Trump and Bibi are the only two world leaders since I have been alive that’s even come close to slowing them down. Trump is the only US President they have ever even come close to respecting. Since this ceasefire I don’t even think Trump scares them anymore. They will be back somewhere down the road. Usually when we choose not to finish a job military and then have to go back later it always turns out worse. I wish we could do it another way and believe me if someone can come up with a better way I will be the first in line to support it. Until then we have the options we have. Letting Iran off the hook again will get us absolutely nowhere. Signing another agreement with them will not stop them or get Iran to change its future behavior. It will just be a minor speed bump for them. Taking out this regime was never a choice it was a requirement. It the only way to get just a chance of a different outcome.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 3:56 pm to diat150
Thanks for providing a long list of something that has nothing to do with the beat down the US gave Iran.
I know you want to be “smart” but you really just come across as a loser
Iran was virtually defenseless against the US. And still is. We flew unimpeeded over their country doing whatever we wanted for weeks.
You confuse our restraint with their strength.
You are using a bunch of terror strikes that they and their proxies have been using for years as some evidence of them understanding “war” in a way we don’t. To think they understand how to wage war, old or new, in a manner the US does not is silly and was just made a laughing stock of over a 4 week period.
They are a thug nation with some drones and bass boats. I’m sorry that scares you
You’re the clown.
I know you want to be “smart” but you really just come across as a loser
Iran was virtually defenseless against the US. And still is. We flew unimpeeded over their country doing whatever we wanted for weeks.
You confuse our restraint with their strength.
You are using a bunch of terror strikes that they and their proxies have been using for years as some evidence of them understanding “war” in a way we don’t. To think they understand how to wage war, old or new, in a manner the US does not is silly and was just made a laughing stock of over a 4 week period.
They are a thug nation with some drones and bass boats. I’m sorry that scares you
You’re the clown.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 3:57 pm
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