re: Why does it feel like we’re letting Iran dictate everything to us?

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Thanks for providing a long list of something that has nothing to do with the beat down the US gave Iran.

I know you want to be “smart” but you really just come across as a loser

Iran was virtually defenseless against the US. And still is. We flew unimpeeded over their country doing whatever we wanted for weeks.

You confuse our restraint with their strength.

You are using a bunch of terror strikes that they and their proxies have been using for years as some evidence of them understanding “war” in a way we don’t. To think they understand how to wage war, old or new, in a manner the US does not is silly and was just made a laughing stock of over a 4 week period.

They are a thug nation with some drones and bass boats. I’m sorry that scares you

You’re the clown.

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whatever bro. you have been proven full of shite and a blowhard that cant even understand whats going on.

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Which is exactly what did not happen to us clowny

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Iran is far ahead of where ukraine was at this point in its war with russia. ukraine wasnt dictating anything 3-4 months into the war and thats not even considering the strength of the US military vs russia. Ukraine adapted drone technology in the last 1-2 years and it has learned the weaknesses and strategies to use to defeat the russian defense systems along with developing somewhat capable defense systems against russian drones. You can keep beating your gums but its clear you dont know shite.

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at what cost though? if an iranian drone costs 2000 and can be put together by a teenager in 2 hours with parts from amazon and we shoot it down with a 3 million dollar missile that takes a month to build we are losing.

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I was addressing ballistic missiles. That why I said missiles. As far as the drones we've been taking them out with a mixed bag of high and relatively low cost tech. Its still a point of leverage for Iran, as is there ballistic missile stock pile but we are slowly putting more pressure on that leverage. We should've had our shite together as far as anti drone tech long before starting this war. If you are looking for an argument from me that the US is in a great position right now, you wont get one. Just pointing out some movement in our and our regional partners ability to mitigate some of the threat.

Hezbollah and Hamas had a small presence in South America and had strong connections to Venezuela and Maduro. It kinda makes you wonder what those guys would have been up too in a year or two if Trump had not taken out Maduro. If Hamas or Hezbollah had been able to smuggle some of those drones into Venezuela they could have hit the US anytime Iran gave the order. Nobody ever mentions this but Hamas and Hezbollah did have a small force in South America. Knowing that and knowing what Iran has done with these drones during the war it was the right call to take out both Maduro and Iran. We just need to finish things off right for a change.

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Why does it feel like we’re letting Iran dictate everything to us?

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Because we are and have no answers for it. They've already shown we can't seize control of the Strait. We can't cripple or dismantle their regime with strictly an air campaign and even if we, stupidly, decided to launch a full-scale war Iran's geography makes any type of buildup of men and material extremely difficult.

We don't have any good options here. Hope Bibi's thank you card to Trump makes this worth it. I kid, I kid.


That prick would never send a thank you card.

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Why does it feel like we’re letting Iran dictate everything to us?

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I’ve said this from the beginning, they have more resolve than we do. Why should they negotiate anything? We aren’t going to invade or nuke them.

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Hezbollah and Hamas had a small presence in South America and had strong connections to Venezuela and Maduro. It kinda makes you wonder what those guys would have been up too in a year or two if Trump had not taken out Maduro. If Hamas or Hezbollah had been able to smuggle some of those drones into Venezuela they could have hit the US anytime Iran gave the order. Nobody ever mentions this but Hamas and Hezbollah did have a small force in South America. Knowing that and knowing what Iran has done with these drones during the war it was the right call to take out both Maduro and Iran. We just need to finish things off right for a change.

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yes and probably why we are putting pressure on cuba now. that would be the real threat to launch from there and hit miami.

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I’ve said this from the beginning, they have more resolve than we do. Why should they negotiate anything? We aren’t going to invade or nuke them.

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The American people didn't want this, hell a large portion of the Administration didn't want this war. It really is all on Trump's shoulders this time and he fricked up.

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yes its still the same concept. iran can produce for a few hundred thousand and we spend millions and millions to knock it down.

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As far as missiles? Not quite. The Iranian missiles cost any where between million to 8 million. And unlike drones, they arent easily replaced right now....but neither are our interceptors atm. The drones are where they are beating us on cost effectiveness but like I said , we are starting to make some gains.

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We’re all aware of how much you hate the US brother. You don’t need to prove it, again.

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I love the United States. Which is why I don't want to see us make poor foreign policy decisions. You love the president more than the United States and will defend anything no matter how stupid.