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re: Why do Republicans ignore Divorce and Male Reproductive Rights for Men

Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:49 am to
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:49 am to
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Yes, that's exactly what we need: more risk and uncertainty involved with sex and its consequences.




it's 2018, women can take care of themselves now. if they want to keep the child and they banged a dude who runs away i don't feel sorry for them. there are consequences to our actions.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:50 am to
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He asked a political question about why the GOP is not taking a particulat position. I gave him the realpolitik answer.


ah, gotcha. makes sense.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67493 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:53 am to
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Why do Republicans ignore Divorce and Male Reproductive Rights for Men

We don't.....oh yeah men have no reproductive rights
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63596 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:54 am to
There seem to be many misconceptions out thereabout domestic relations family law,
And alimony. Divorce law is fairly even handed if properly applied.

As far as the abortion issue is concerned, it seems fair that the father should have a say in the matter, but it’s the mother who must carry the fetus during pregnancy and give birth to the child. That will tilt the scales
towardthe mother as far as the decision is concerned. Sorry, I don’t have an easy solution.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64689 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:55 am to
There are no reproductive Rights. Made up narrative.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:55 am to
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I'm not saying to purely blame politics. However, there are laws in place that are unjust to men in general


These laws were predominantly enacted by progressive minded people. How is hat the GIO’s fault?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67493 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:56 am to
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Divorce law is fairly even handed


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if properly applied

Oh the "if" properly applied, which it isn't......ever
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:56 am to
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Well let me ask you. What does the GOP mean to you. Also. What is the best way to address the aforementioned problems.

The “GOP” has strayed from conservatism over the past few years. However, conservatives believe in making good, responsible decisions. I made sure to not impregnate a woman until we were married for a few years. I made sure said woman was a person I wanted to be the mother of my child and I would be able to sustain a relationship with the rest of my life. I don’t need the government to dictate terms to be because I practice individual responsibility. Do I find the sexism and double standard in government appalling, sure, but I contribute it to the over-reaching arm of the government as a whole.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:56 am to
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Why do you think republicans defend this action? This is the case because the Left has classified this a "it my body" issue. Republicans (majority? or at least platform wise) are against abortion all together. and not sure what point on this you are attacking. good luck getting a woman to have an abortion if she wants to keep it and the man does not. but the only way to prevent a woman from having one and the man wanting to keep it is if abortion was illigal. 



I agree with ending Abortion. This isn't about abortion, it's about choice. If you ban abortion, both parties are forced to take responsibility. That's fine.
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:58 am to
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One of your worsts posts ever, which is a staggering accomplishment.


It’s 100% right so
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53851 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:00 am to
-the man has the option not to dump his load in her and once he fills her gut ms he needs to step up to the plate, it’s that simple.

- Alimony has become very different and is usually reserved for women that were not working or have been married for a long time and their husband found some new pussy!

-a judge should actually not be allowed to make a decision on a prenup. A prenup is a contract and should be argued before a jury as such. Prenups are usually prepared and then popped on the bride right before the marriage. A prenup should have to be addressed months before the wedding and before any invitation have been sent out to be valid. Each side should have to hire and pay their own lawyer and it should only apply to assets gained prior to the marriage. If you want to marry a women and give her nothing if the marriage fails then you should just buy whore pussy because you are not looking for a wife.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13499 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:01 am to
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1. If a woman gets pregnant, she has the option of abortion or birth.

Because of liberal judges in Roe; not GOP.
I would agree that if one parent has the option of baby murder, a fair law would grant the other parent the same. A pro-life GOPer would equally protect the baby from both parents desire to murder it.
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2. Alimony is a dated concept.

Yes and no.

The purpose of marriage is to raise children by a man and woman. Each utilizes their best talents. The man provides and protects the family from the outer world, and the female produces the nurturing environment of the home. This has been proven the optimal process for the continuation of the species. If the man agrees to this relationship, the child support and alimony are just until the children are independent. Then the children should support the financial shortfall of their mother out of love and gratitude.

Now if man and woman reject this relationship and both choose the outside role than neither need nor deserves alimony, but both must provide child support.

If they reverse roles, then the woman owes the man both support and alimony just like the traditional model.
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3. Judges should not have the power to annul a legally binding Prenuptial Agreement.

Agree, unless trickery invalidated it or one party destroys the contract.

But still do not see the Republican connection.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42663 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:01 am to
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Texas law has improved markedly in the last 30 years or so, as far as the man’s rights.


I'll say - My granddaughter divorced an abusive husband about five years ago - when he stared abusing the two kids and the dog in his rants. He has yet to pay a dime of child support or health insurance for the kids. He only pays when his paycheck is has court imposed deductions - then he quits that job and gets another one until that catch up with him again.

However he still has full visitation rights, even though his only interest in the kids is to take them from their mom - he does nothing with them when he has them - just puts them in a room with video games or leaves them with his mother. The kids have seen him abusing his current live-in and her kids and are sometimes scared to go with him. My daughter and son-in-law (their child) have spent a fortune on lawyer's fees trying to get him to pay his obligations - he always gets a court appointed attorney whose only function seems to be to delay hearings so that it runs up her lawyers' fees.

He has been stopped with two DUI's but still gets to take the kids - we finally got the court to require an alternate driver to be on hand when he picks up the kids.

It is a continuing shite-show.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:07 am to
The only politics concerning paternity fraud I am aware of is the absurd left wing liberal Ca democrats ruling that you, as a husband or boyfriend are responsible for the support of a child and that child's mother even if another male impregnated her. So anyone whom you have held out to be your significant other can breed at will and drop the responsibility on you. That's reality in Ca. Even if you have a live in or steady and you are white and the bouncing baby boy is clearly Asian and the DNA supports that, you are still stuck with the lifelong tab. A case of a state pinning the tail on the most handy donkey or in that case the most handy honkey.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63596 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:07 am to
Woods, no disrespect, but you haven’t seen the number and variety of cases necessary to reach an informed opinion.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:08 am to
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To answer your question more directly, I had to upvote AggieHank's rebuttal. THAT is how bad it was.


Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63596 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:29 am to
Spousal Support( alimony) is available to either spouse if the financial circumstances warrant it and the spouse is “ without fault”

In matters of child custody, Louisiana has eliminated what was called the “maternal preference” rule and both father and mother have equal rights to child custody.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:35 am to
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liberal Ca democrats ruling that you, as a husband or boyfriend are responsible for the support of a child and that child's mother even if another male impregnated her.
Link?

In most states with which I am familiar, marriage or (in some cases) a dating relationship will give rise to a legal PRESUMPTION of paternity, but that presumption is entirelt REBUTTABLE.

In most cases, there is a time limit on rebuttal ... such that the husband/boyfriend cannot lay behind the log for years to keep getting laid and then deny paternity when the relationship ends.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26641 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:36 am to
Jesus, talk about a stretch....

Did you find that one in the back of the pantry...?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24843 posts
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:43 am to
If you don't want a kid... birth control and even condoms aren't 100% effective. But the combination of the two is over 99% effective. So if a dude is that worried about the possibility of reproduction, he should take literally every precaution.

Or just abstain, as difficult as that is.
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