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re: Why do Republicans ignore Divorce and Male Reproductive Rights for Men
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:07 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:07 am to imjustafatkid
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 3:13 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:10 am to brian_wilson
quote:Dad would pay $1500 if Mom had sole. Mom would pay $1000 if Dad had sole. Dad is ordered to the difference of $500 for joint. AND VICE VERSA.
The big problem for men is getting custody, even joint custody or having to pay child support despite having joint custody
You see this as unfair?
(usual result in Texas).
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:12 am to AggieHank86
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You see this as unfair?
Absolutely. I don't see why someone should have to pay child support if they are taking care of the child. Nor should a man pay more than a woman, just cause.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 11:13 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:15 am to brian_wilson
quote:And I see no reason a child should suffer half the time because one parent earns more than the other.quote:Absolutely. I don't see why someone should have to pay child support if they are taking care of the child.
You see this as unfair?
Your focus is on the parent ... mine is on the child. Such is life. Thanks for reasonable disagreement,
quote:That was just an example. Child support is calculated based upon a simple formula, regardless of the sex of the parent. In Texas, at least.
Nor should a man pay more than a woman, just cause.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 11:17 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:22 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Child support is calculated based upon a simple formula, regardless of the sex of the parent. In Texas, at least.
I probably wouldn't have an issue with this. But I know men who have gotten screwed over (not in texas) with custody and child support.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 2:44 pm to volod
While this isn’t a republican or Democrat isssue, it is an issue I have problems with. A male has every right a woman has in whether or not an abortion should take place. The current law allows for abortion.
If the male declares that it is his want for the child to be aborted, then all his rights shall be stripped and he should not bear any responsibility for that child being brought or maintained in this world. The same should apply for the mother upon her declaration of wanting an abortion.
Additionally, if either parent chooses that the child should be born, then the child shall be born. However, if they choose the child shall be born, they still have the option of having the child they chose to be born be put up for adoption if they so choose. However, any parent who declared that the shall be aborted is prohibited in deciding whether the child shall be adopted and by whom. Their rights to the child are still stripped.
This is the way abortion should be treated. The action of sexual intercourse has the potential for life. If life is created then both parties to the action shall have the rights to their created life recognized and respected by law.
The childbearing parent shall be held accountable if neglect or purposeful action causes the death of such life with damages paid to the non child bearing parent.
If the male declares that it is his want for the child to be aborted, then all his rights shall be stripped and he should not bear any responsibility for that child being brought or maintained in this world. The same should apply for the mother upon her declaration of wanting an abortion.
Additionally, if either parent chooses that the child should be born, then the child shall be born. However, if they choose the child shall be born, they still have the option of having the child they chose to be born be put up for adoption if they so choose. However, any parent who declared that the shall be aborted is prohibited in deciding whether the child shall be adopted and by whom. Their rights to the child are still stripped.
This is the way abortion should be treated. The action of sexual intercourse has the potential for life. If life is created then both parties to the action shall have the rights to their created life recognized and respected by law.
The childbearing parent shall be held accountable if neglect or purposeful action causes the death of such life with damages paid to the non child bearing parent.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 2:49 pm to volod
Democrats are the ones waging a war against cisgender heterosexual males. Take up your torch and pitchfork and march against them.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 2:52 pm to volod
Pull out and don’t get married if you want control. Get a vasectomy. It’s not fuggin rocket science. Everyone is always looking for someone to blame these days! Grow a pair! Or better yet, cut em off!
Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:00 pm to Lickitty Split
quote:The possibility of allowing a father to veto an abortion (and be named custodial parent) is one worthy of discussion.
If the male declares that it is his want for the child to be aborted, then all his rights shall be stripped and he should not bear any responsibility for that child being brought or maintained in this world. The same should apply for the mother upon her declaration of wanting an abortion.
But the idea of allowing EITHER parent to avoid all financial responsibility for a pregnancy and subsequent child ... just by saying “Oops” ... is too stupid for serious discussion. You rolled the dice. If they come up snake-eyes, you pay the house.
AND. say that as a strong advocate for abortion rights.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:01 pm to volod
Are you sure you know what a republican is?
Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:03 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
But the idea of allowing EITHER parent to avoid all financial responsibility for a pregnancy and subsequent child ... just by saying “Oops”
Abortion allows this for the mother. If that is to exist, then it does make sense for fathers to have an "oops" card also.
ETA: I'd rather just outlaw abortion though.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:18 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:No, it does not.
Abortion allows this for the mother. If that is to exist, then it does make sense for fathers to have an "oops" card also.
By choosing to abort, the woman does not saddle the man with a six-figure responsibility. but allowing a father to “opt out” DOES saddle the mother with a responsibility that by rights should be split between them.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:27 pm to AggieHank86
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By choosing to abort, the woman does not saddle the man with a six-figure responsibility. but allowing a father to “opt out” DOES saddle the mother with a responsibility that by rights should be split between them.
Which takes us back to my original premise. A woman chose for a baby to be born and the man has no choice but to pay or be jailed.
Now the woman being the caretaker in most instances does incur costs. The issue at hand is that WE DONT REGULATE THE SUPPORT PAYMENTS. As a result you get child support being abused.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:47 pm to volod
Once again, a woman has no choice about a baby until a man puts a baby inside her.
This does not happen by magic or by chance.
The inherent "unfairness" in the way that this matter has been handled for MANY MANY years now is a warning to men to think carefully about this. Unfortunately, they usually don't.
This does not happen by magic or by chance.
The inherent "unfairness" in the way that this matter has been handled for MANY MANY years now is a warning to men to think carefully about this. Unfortunately, they usually don't.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 1:51 am to AggieHank86
By choosing to abort a child that a father wants is destroying an heir and precious life that the mother doesn’t want. He should be able to stake his claim to that precious life.
Also, a woman has the ability to give birth to a child and put it up for adoption. This doesn’t “saddle” any of the true parents with costs.
You sound like a paid person.
Also, a woman has the ability to give birth to a child and put it up for adoption. This doesn’t “saddle” any of the true parents with costs.
You sound like a paid person.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 5:30 am to timdonaghyswhistle
quote:
Once again, a woman has no choice about a baby until a man puts a baby inside her. This does not happen by magic or by chance. The inherent "unfairness" in the way that this matter has been handled for MANY MANY years now is a warning to men to think carefully about this. Unfortunately, they usually don't.
White knights are pathetic.
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