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Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:11 am to weagle99
They don't actually need to filibuster. They basically need to say "filibuster" and it's set until 60 votes agree to end debate. Like Chappelle's "FIF!"
Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:16 am to TejasHorn
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Fart of the Deal
Sounds related to Cocks not glocks.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:17 am to Jake88
The rule can be changed 
Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:18 am to weagle99
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passed 16 bills
Hussein Obama vetoed 16 bills related to Hussein care?
Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:20 am to weagle99
Problem is that when the Dems control the Senate at some time in the future we'll need it to stop their anti-American lunacy.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:48 am to shoelessjoe
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Because it takes a super majority not simple majority. He needed Dems to side with the wall also.
So he waited until he needed MORE Dems to side with the wall to shut the government down over it?
That doesn't make any sense.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:49 am to nimbus
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Why did Trump not push through the Wall when he had both Houses?
Because it wasn’t that big of a deal until the Dems won the house and they said he’s never gonna get it.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:01 am to Giantkiller
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Because it wasn’t that big of a deal until the Dems won the house
You must have missed the entire 2016 presidential campaign. Listening to Trump on the campaign trail, one would've thought the first two things he would've done upon taking office would've been to lock up Clinton and start building the wall.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:48 am to nimbus
The answer is on the tip of my tongue. . . Caul Cryin? Nawl Sighin?
Raul Dryin, that's the one.
Raul Dryin, that's the one.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:53 am to nimbus
Because he doesn't really want the wall.
He wants to be able to drum up ignorant fools about the need for the wall, without ever actually having to do anything to build it.
He wants to be able to drum up ignorant fools about the need for the wall, without ever actually having to do anything to build it.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:53 am to shoelessjoe
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Because it takes a super majority not simple majority. He needed Dems to side with the wall also.
Please link me to the Democrats that voted for the GOP tax bill to make it a supermajority.
Thanks in advance!
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:17 am to nimbus
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Just wondering. Honest question.
MAGA.
Did you attend a Civics class in school at any level and do you watch any credible news?
Trump has had a majority in both houses. He has not had CONTROL of both houses. The Dems had enough votes in the Senate to prevent anything they oppose from coming to a vote. This may be why America actually increased the Senate Republican margin this year but they lost the House majority.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:20 am to nimbus
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I posed it here bcs I think the intelligence level is somewhat higher here than elsewhere.
If you think this echo chamber is a better place to get real information and insight that your other options, you need to delete everything you have bookmarked.
This is a site overtaken by true believers, conspiracy theorists, and trolls, and nothing more.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:24 am to TejasHorn
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He probably wishes he’d negotiated more with a few Senate dems last year
Oh please name them. Go!
Cause after the SCOTUS hearings please name the five plus you think would have gone along.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:25 am to Pelican fan99
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How many fricking times is this going to be asked? He didn’t have the votes
Were his chances better now?
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:27 am to nimbus
He should have pushed for the wall right after he was elected and when he was most popular.
He may not have had the votes, but voting against him at that time would have been tougher and it also would have put voters on notice as to the extent of the problem with RINOs and leftists.
Trump made a tactical error IMHO.
He may not have had the votes, but voting against him at that time would have been tougher and it also would have put voters on notice as to the extent of the problem with RINOs and leftists.
Trump made a tactical error IMHO.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:27 am to BamaAtl
quote:So your point is, the McConnell Senate should abandon normal order, go nuclear, and take bills to reconciliation circumventing opposition's right by Senate rules to filibuster? That certainly is how Reid passed obamacare. It is also similar to the basis Reid put in place allowing Trump to appoint judges.
Please link me to the Democrats that voted for the GOP tax bill to make it a supermajority.
But to be clear, you and I agree. I too wish McConnell would have brought the build-the-wall bill to reconciliation. Dems would have lowered the bar and gone nuclear if the shoe were on the other foot. No question. It is who they are. IMO, McConnell is a doddering fool in trying to maintain decorum with this group. He is applying Marquess of Queensberry Rules to a fight with Son of Sam.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:31 am to nimbus
He always needed dems votes in the Senate. It's not a simple majority vote. He got a bill passed in the house and offered Scumer 2 million DACA at one point to get it done, and Chuck said "no".
The difference between then and now is basically the dems gains in the house minus the rep senate gains.
The difference between then and now is basically the dems gains in the house minus the rep senate gains.
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