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Why did the SS snipers not take assassin out before he fires?
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:44 am
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:44 am
They obviously see him before he started shooting. Isn’t their role to take preemptive action i.e. take him out before he gets a shot off or were they to only silence him after the damage was done?
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:46 am to TigerVespamon
That’s one of the Question we need answered and answered fast (in addition to why that rooftop wasn’t covered in the original security plan)
The Secret Service completely failed today in every way. Trump is only alive because of luck/act of God, all the SS did was do a good of eliminating the threat quickly after the fact…but that’s not their job.
The Secret Service completely failed today in every way. Trump is only alive because of luck/act of God, all the SS did was do a good of eliminating the threat quickly after the fact…but that’s not their job.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:47 am to Eighteen
Inside job?
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:47 am to TigerVespamon
The guy reacted to something he saw right before shots fired
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:47 am to TigerVespamon
They needed orders from the top but the DEI Hire "woman" couldn't (or was scared to) make a decision.
Like when you ask them what they want for dinner
Like when you ask them what they want for dinner
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:49 am to TigerVespamon
I’m guessing they couldn’t confirm that he was holding a gun and wanted that confirmation before smoking an innocent person that might have just been a dipshit trying to get a better view.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:49 am to TigerVespamon
Asking such questions is conspiracy stuff.
Of course this was allowed to happen. Stop being so damn naive.
Of course this was allowed to happen. Stop being so damn naive.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 7:50 am
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:50 am to TigerVespamon
Maybe they wanted the shot so they could retaliate and remove any testimony.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:50 am to TigerVespamon
I think it’s possible they had already shot and he was looking with his own eyes to ensure everything was good. There were metal buildings there and they looked to have been maybe 30 yards from the camera so it’s possible the shots we hear after he reacts are actually echos of a delayed sound.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 7:54 am
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:50 am to TigerVespamon
If it was an inside job..
- You leave the closest roof uncovered and claim negligence.
- You play dumb when the crowd is screaming “shooter” to the police and act like you can’t see him.
- You wait to let him fire several rounds and then kill him once he’s gotten off those shots.
- You leave the closest roof uncovered and claim negligence.
- You play dumb when the crowd is screaming “shooter” to the police and act like you can’t see him.
- You wait to let him fire several rounds and then kill him once he’s gotten off those shots.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:50 am to TigerVespamon
Perhaps they only see the civilian pointing up at the roof trying to get their attention. How long was the sniper hidden by the peak of the roof line before he popped up and took his first shot? I doubt he climbed up the side of the building facing Trump’s venue.
Obviously a failure to secure the roof, but it’s not yet clear how long he would have been visible to the counter snipers before they returned fire.
Obviously a failure to secure the roof, but it’s not yet clear how long he would have been visible to the counter snipers before they returned fire.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:51 am to The Torch
Not orders they have a list of progressions to go through(it’s a short 3 phased list if it’s still what it was in 90s).
There also seems to be some gaps in what coverage did state / local Leo have and what SS had.
The real Q is how in the heck he got where he was and got shots off.
There also seems to be some gaps in what coverage did state / local Leo have and what SS had.
The real Q is how in the heck he got where he was and got shots off.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:52 am to Stidham8
Some of you need to review Hanlon's Razor.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:52 am to TigerVespamon
sniper on the right ducks as the shooter gets out his first shots....pussy
I said it yesterday. I bet they had him in their sights but probably couldnt decide if it was a LOE or just a bystander trying to get a view of the speech. Either way, they fricked up royally by not securing that 1 building roof close to the stage and a LOT of people should be held accountable
I said it yesterday. I bet they had him in their sights but probably couldnt decide if it was a LOE or just a bystander trying to get a view of the speech. Either way, they fricked up royally by not securing that 1 building roof close to the stage and a LOT of people should be held accountable
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:53 am to IT_Dawg
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I said it yesterday. I bet they had him in their sights but probably couldnt decide if it was a LOE or just a bystander trying to get a view of the speech. Either way, they fricked up royally by not securing that 1 building roof close to the stage and a LOT of people should be held accountable
This
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:53 am to Stidham8
Some MIGHT claim this was a very abridged version of what happened to Lee Oswald.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:54 am to TigerVespamon
They didn’t see him or have a clear shot. The shooter is laying on the opposite downslope of his roof.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:56 am to TigerVespamon
They didn’t see the shooter beforehand, they saw commotion or there was chatter over the radio. Once the shots were fired, he had to look up to find the shooter and readjust the tripod to take a shot.
The sniper’s reaction isn’t the problem here. It’s the incompetence or purposeful negligence to not secure a building that close to the stage with a clear shot at the President.
The sniper’s reaction isn’t the problem here. It’s the incompetence or purposeful negligence to not secure a building that close to the stage with a clear shot at the President.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:06 am
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:58 am to TigerVespamon
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They obviously see him before he started shooting. Isn’t their role to take preemptive action i.e. take him out before he gets a shot off or were they to only silence him after the damage was done?
That's the obvious question.
The MORE OBVIOUS question, why wasn't the sniper team looking over at that building, communicating with ANOTHER sniper team located there?
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:01 am to pankReb
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I’m guessing they couldn’t confirm that he was holding a gun and wanted that confirmation before smoking an innocent person that might have just been a dipshit trying to get a better view.
If people on the ground could confirm it - they were screaming 'he has a gun'
BEFORE the shooting started - then a rifle team on a roof with 32X scopes could have, and should have seen the gun before the shots, and acted.
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