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re: Why are leftists acting as if Cuomo forcing covid patients into nursing homes is new news?

Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:04 pm to
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has been known for months that he was hiding deaths from state lawmakers?


It has been known since last April that the nursing home deaths reported were only those that died in the nursing home.

It was known that many more died in the hospital.

So yes, this was known by most people who don't just believe msnbc.

And I've been saying for quite some time that Cuomo pissed someone off. Because to dig up a story that everyone knew about and play it off as new is pretty strange.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26368 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:05 pm to
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You fail to understand that no one is surprised that he was lying and knew he was lying the whole time.

The "revelation" that the media and other NY politicians decided to do their jobs doesn't change that.



I do understand that nobody on this board is surprised. I wouldn't expect y'all to be.

But do y'all think a Governor admitting to lying about Covid deaths should just be ignored by the press?
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4442 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:06 pm to
Everybody look, a lying, cheating, dishonest jackass Dem is on the board.

Hope you're real proud of your own, as they are the trash the garbage man won't even carry out.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26368 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:07 pm to
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It has been known since last April that the nursing home deaths reported were only those that died in the nursing home.

It was known that many more died in the hospital.

So yes, this was known by most people who don't just believe msnbc.


The "updated" accurate covid death numbers just revealed many more died IN nursing homes than previously reported. The NY AG found this out by contacting nursing homes directly, then comparing the numbers with the NY DOH's numbers.
Posted by SOKAL
Member since May 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:10 pm to
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But do y'all think a Governor admitting to lying about Covid deaths should just be ignored by the press?



No, but I feel pretty certain that if this was two weeks before a presidential election it would be ignored though -- just as the real story, that the order was entered in the first place, was ignored or dramatically downplayed by the media.

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25848 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:11 pm to
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But do y'all think a Governor admitting to lying about Covid deaths should just be ignored by the press?

No, but this should have been national news and investigated May 2020, not 10 months down the road. Instead, he was allowed to put out Soviet-esque self-congratulatory posters, write a book on crisis leadership, and awarded some crazy Emmy because of his appearances on his brother's show.

Frightening that all the "democracy dies in darkness" folks play political games, eh?

The bottom line...where the frick was the NY AG and news media months ago?



And, if he and is administration don't burn for this, what's the point?

Look at all the negative press DeSantis got because of that lying, psycho criminal Rebekkah (sp?) Jones, and how the media made her a hero.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
5437 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:12 pm to
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just came out


Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26368 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:14 pm to
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No, but I feel pretty certain that if this was two weeks before a presidential election it would be ignored though -- just as the real story, that the order was entered in the first place, was ignored or dramatically downplayed by the media.



100% agree
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1405 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:15 pm to
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No, but this should have been national news and investigated May 2020, not 10 months down the road. Instead, he was allowed to put out Soviet-esque self-congratulatory posters, write a book on crisis leadership, and awarded some crazy Emmy because of his appearances on his brother's show.


This. FFS, this x infinity. The media ran cover for the scumbags until they finally stepped on their own dicks.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1512 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:19 pm to
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They ignored gross negligence on Cuomo's part all of last year and now they want to get him. He pissed off the wrong person or people me thinks.


They ignored it because it shined bad on Trump. The narrative was that Trump was dropping the ball, but look here's this Democrat saving New York. It was a lie that was inevitably going to be exposed and now that Trump has been "defeated", they are tying up loose ends.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26327 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Because of this news that just came out:


So 8500 murders are ok but 15000 murders is just over the top.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26368 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:23 pm to
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So 8500 murders are ok but 15000 murders is just over the top.



Again...I never said the 8500 were ok.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26327 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:24 pm to
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The only thing this thread shows is that the level of reading comprehension in our country is sad.


And that your ability to reason true motivations is lacking.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:26 pm to
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But do y'all think a Governor admitting to lying about Covid deaths should just be ignored by the press?




The press ignored this issue, including fudging the numbers and his policies toward the long term care facilities in his State, until they could no longer ignore it...

My complaint is not that they are printing it now, but that they waited this long and did no type of digging to try to uncover the truth earlier as it relates to this... The story has been out there pretty much since the start...
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:26 pm to
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But do y'all think a Governor admitting to lying about Covid deaths should just be ignored by the press?


No, we just know it would be if it helped Gramps get elected.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:27 pm to
you're a liar, Mickey
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:27 pm to
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In the grand scheme of things there isn't a huge difference between 8,500 and 15,000.


6,500 is the population of a small village or the workforce of a major corporation. That's pretty significant.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Because of this news that just came out:
GTFO. This fricker was doing bizarre victory laps.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15911 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:35 pm to
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The "updated" accurate covid death numbers just revealed many more died IN nursing homes than previously reported. The NY AG found this out by contacting nursing homes directly, then comparing the numbers with the NY DOH's numbers.


Look, I can only tell you what I know.

I knew in the spring of last year that the deaths being reported by Cuomo after his nursing home fiasco were only counting the people who died in the nursing home.

This was known by many. I may have even posted it here way back then.

It was knew the deaths reported did not include this that died in the hospital.

I feel badly for you for two reasons.

First, I understand what you are saying and I never accused you of dating that you were on with the deaths in nursing homes. I understand you that was horrible.

As a side note, the former Pennsylvania dhs had, the transgender that biden is nominating for assistant secretary of hhs implemented a similar procedure in Pennsylvania. He took his mother out of the nursing home the weekend before the policy was going to go into effect and placed her in a hotel.

Do you think this person should still be nominated for that post?

Anyways, I never did you are OK with the deaths or the policy.

Second reason I feel badly for you is you are in for a ride surprise.

Go back in my posting history. I was considered a lefty here though in n reality a was a centrist.

The Martin/ Zimmerman incident kinda started to wake up my eyes to his the news was run. I saw that what was reported by the main stream media was different from reality. They knew it, they didn't care.

The whole Russia fiasco was known to be fake but was pushed. Look at some of Glenn Greenwald articles about how the media knowingly gets things wrong.

If you start actually paying attention you will hate all these people you stand up for. It's quite a hard fall to take.

Honestly, this was known by the media last year. No one knew the correct numbers, but they knew the numbers were way low because they only counted the deaths in nursing homes. When someone from a nursing home, who contacted covid because of his idiot policy died in the hospital. They didn't count it. No one asked for a full accounting.

I honestly thought the number could be more than twice as high as the number reported. And I think if they ever actually get a full accounting it will be higher than what is reported now.

This was known. No one questioned him about the numbers. This what is reported and the questioned asked are sometimes less important than the questions not being asked.

If you seriously want to know this I'm sure you can look it up somewhere. However Google may not be the best search engine to try to find it.

If you actually are as honest as you seem, and you stand up for what you believe in, please understand that you are standing up for.

This is but one of many examples of how the media is misrepresenting reality.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15911 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:45 pm to
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The "updated" accurate covid death numbers just revealed many more died IN nursing homes than previously reported. The NY AG found this out by contacting nursing homes directly, then comparing the numbers with the NY DOH's numbers.


Correct me if I am wrong. Bit the numbers reported by Cuomo were only those reported by Cuomo.

The new numbers were obtained by calling the nursing home and asking for the number of covid deaths. These deaths are all covid deaths of their patients. Not just those that died in the nursing home. By calling around they got an accurate number of the total deaths.

These total deaths include those that died in the hospital as well as those that died in the nursing home.

Now if they actually lied about the number of people that died even at the hospital, it doesn't really change the needle that much. But my understanding is they intentionally mislead people by saying nursing home deaths as those that only died in the nursing home and the new counting counts people from nursing homes that died from covid regardless of location of death.

Like I said, we knew the numbers were fudged.

I'm curious if I was wrong and this is worse than I thought, though marginally so.
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