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re: Why are boomer parents so dedicated to the college scam?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:05 am to Lynxrufus2012
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:05 am to Lynxrufus2012
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It depends on why you are going to college.
What % of kids are actually getting specific degrees required for medical, law, engineering?
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:05 am to burger bearcat
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have never once been asked about my college degree or GPA or any of that in a job interview.
Neither have I, but if you don’t have a degree many businesses will move you to the bottom of applicants without looking twice.
This isn’t to say you can’t open an electrical company, plumbing, etc and make a small fortune.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:06 am to skidry
For many of them, college was also a 4 year deferment from the Vietnam draft.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:07 am to burger bearcat
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My MIL still believes college is absolutely essential and it would be criminal for us not to blow $100K on some pointless generic business degree with minors in beer pong and critical hate white people theory.
If the young skull of mush is going for a STEM degree it's probably still a good investment.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:08 am to deeprig9
That too.
I had one uncle who pretty much partied his way through journalism school as part of avoiding the draft.
I had one uncle who pretty much partied his way through journalism school as part of avoiding the draft.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:09 am to Leto II
quote:Buy into what? I am a little confused about what is actually being discussed here.
My Boomer parents still buy into that shite and I don't get it.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:09 am to burger bearcat
The quicker all Boomers are gone, the better off we will be. They are a worthless generation.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:11 am to burger bearcat
So, what are you wanting your kids to do?
I'm not being a smartass. I'm curiously wondering what you are seeing as the desirable alternative for them.
I'm not being a smartass. I'm curiously wondering what you are seeing as the desirable alternative for them.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:11 am to FriscoTiger1973
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The quicker all Boomers are gone, the better off we will be. They are a worthless generation.
Progressives would think so.
Boomers are far more conservative than Millennials or Zoomers.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:19 am to burger bearcat
Avg lifetime earnings:
High School diploma: $1.6mm or $47,500/ year avg
College degree: $2.8mm or $70K/ year avg
Master's Degree: $3.2MM or $80K/year avg
I have no idea why anyone would consider college.
High School diploma: $1.6mm or $47,500/ year avg
College degree: $2.8mm or $70K/ year avg
Master's Degree: $3.2MM or $80K/year avg
I have no idea why anyone would consider college.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:20 am to deeprig9
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For many of them, college was also a 4 year deferment from the Vietnam draft.
Early years. Later the college deferment was eliminated while the war still continued. Lotta guys got the freshman year in while 18 y.o. and then got drafted.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:23 am to Ten Bears
Now take out the degrees which people readily admit are worth going to college for and redo the numbers with net worth at time of death.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:24 am to patnuh
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but if you don’t have a degree many businesses will move you to the bottom of applicants without looking twice.
Employers wrongly think it is a filter for intelligence.
I'd love to see more OJT style employment and less "credentialed" employment.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:25 am to burger bearcat
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I have never once been asked about my college degree
Not even for your 1st job? What field are you in?
It's not a scam if you enter into a STEM related field. College can prepare you for those types of jobs.
Where the scam comes in is
1. The requirement for a degree in a field that doesn't need one.
2. The cost
3. Degrees that don't have "real world" applications
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:26 am to Flats
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It's entirely dependent on what sort of career you want to have.
This right here, some careers need a 4 year (or more) degree while many trades do not. The useless degrees are a litmus test to see how dumb you are.
A lot of job knowledge is learned on the job and in the field but college will give someone like a doctor/lawyer/engineer/teacher the basic knowledge needed for it.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:28 am to FriscoTiger1973
And 1 day those yet to be born will say the same thing about you.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:32 am to AlxTgr
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Buy into what? I am a little confused about what is actually being discussed here.
My parents are hung up on the name of the college rather than what you want to get out of it.
I believe you can get a good and useful degree at most colleges and I also believe you can have a very good quality career life without a degree at all.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:33 am to Ten Bears
quote:This thread is stupid.
Avg lifetime earnings:
High School diploma: $1.6mm or $47,500/ year avg
College degree: $2.8mm or $70K/ year avg
Master's Degree: $3.2MM or $80K/year avg
I have no idea why anyone would consider college.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:33 am to burger bearcat
College worked for their generation.
I find that a lot of tensions between boomers and gen Y&Z is that a lot of the conventional wisdom that absolutely did work for the boomers straight up doesn’t work in our current economic/educational climate. The norms have changed so dramatically that they are often out of touch on many issues.
On the flip side, younger folks often lack a lot of wisdom that boomers possess which still is applicable, but it’s a mixed bag.
Even gen x-ers and millennials often find themselves completely out of their depth when dealing with the modern social media climate and dating norms in 2023.
Our culture is changing so fast, generations are exceptionally out of touch with one another because the wisdom of one is wholly inapplicable to those they’re trying to teach.
I find that a lot of tensions between boomers and gen Y&Z is that a lot of the conventional wisdom that absolutely did work for the boomers straight up doesn’t work in our current economic/educational climate. The norms have changed so dramatically that they are often out of touch on many issues.
On the flip side, younger folks often lack a lot of wisdom that boomers possess which still is applicable, but it’s a mixed bag.
Even gen x-ers and millennials often find themselves completely out of their depth when dealing with the modern social media climate and dating norms in 2023.
Our culture is changing so fast, generations are exceptionally out of touch with one another because the wisdom of one is wholly inapplicable to those they’re trying to teach.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 11:35 am
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:37 am to burger bearcat
College is certainly not the right avenue for everyone, but to say it is a scam and worthless is a moronic statement.
Sounds like Lil' Burger Bearcat may prefer welding school if he's only smart enough to get a "pointless generic business degree"
I would say good call on your part.
College was never meant to be a jobs program, but a place for young people to mature, get critical thinking skills and get a well-rounded education that would enable to them to learn more in the future and become well-rounded adults.
But, that can happen at vo-tech as well.
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