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re: Who is praising Putin?

Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:18 am to
Wrong.

But I sure do remember how forceful the left was in its opposition to war, the police state, and support of bodily autonomy back in those days.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 11:20 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26370 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:20 am to
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Who is praising Putin?
I keep hearing the leftists say this

No one is praising Putin.


https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=101429414&s=2&p=101429376#101429414

Look at the upvotes.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:20 am to
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Dude if you can’t see how Putin used the whole bullshite “green energy” concerns of weak arse leaders like Obama and Biden then you are beyond simple minded. 


You realize Russia has been complaining about NATO expansion for 2 decades now? The state of affairs in terms of energy is transient, given that Europeans themselves, among many other countries including countries which have extensive gas infrastructure, have been trying to provide Europe with natural gas.

What I said is absolutely true, as NATO has basically admitted whoever it wanted without any regard for Russia despite Russian protestations. Effectively, Russia was too weak to do anything about it. Ukraine may their redline, but they are going to have an extremely difficult time actually gaining any of the initial objectives. What's more likely is prolonged insurgency.

You have a situation where Russia is forced to act, and will likely not be able to impose their will on Ukraine, especially given the Russian public's response, as well as the response from some Russian oligarchs.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55426 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:23 am to
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Pettifogger


You stated he is/was fake. I asked for actions that proved that.


Your response is:

quote:

I don't think Trump is a Christian


What does that have to do with his actions?

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I don't think he's a deeply patriotic person.


Actions over your person grudges. Show me actions.


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Allow me this - can you point to any situation in which Trump did something that went against Trump's ego for the betterment of either (the US or Christianity)?



Sure. He donated all his pay to various organizations. That's just one. Now why does he need to do anything that would go against his ego?


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An example where Trump showed humility?


I sure can. Humility is expressed in many ways. One is doing something good and not advertising it.

He used his personal wealth to help many people that you would have never known about. One being taking care of a kid for life of a person he knew. One was helping a star after a tragic accident.

quote:

Where he said "I got this wrong, here's why I changed course?" I'm not aware of any, but perhaps you are.


“I’ve never said I’m a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that I am not. I’ve said and done things I regret, and the words released today on this more than a decade-old video, are one of them,” Donald Trump said, in a videotaped message posted to Facebook, on Friday night. “I said it, I was wrong, and I apologize.”

Daily Beast



BTW..

What does having humility have to do with his actions as a President and being "fake?"

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46403 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:24 am to
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Look at the upvotes.


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15





Why do dem trash like you have to be so goddamned dishonest all of the time? You can understand Putin’s motives, and even respect his strength while also forcefully disagreeing with his tactics and ideology. The left is so trained to split everyone into rival factions, you don’t remember how to look at a dynamic situation thoughtfully anymore.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55426 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:26 am to
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I think we've all argued with you often enough to know that when you can win an argument, you make arguments. When you can't you do that.




Oh no no. You are simply lying. It's why you left the board until Biden was installed in office.

Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19933 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:30 am to
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Nearly everyone on this board was pre-2015/16


Those that have half a brain are pro-NATO…..as long as it isn’t 28 nations being carried by the USA….even today. But also they shouldn’t have kept creeping closer to the Kremlin…..that is plain stupidity.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:33 am to
Pshaw, baw. Bass will confirm that I was annoying him with COVID posting long before the election.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26370 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:35 am to
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Why do dem trash like you have to be so goddamned dishonest all of the time? You can understand Putin’s motives, and even respect his strength while also forcefully disagreeing with his tactics and ideology. The left is so trained to split everyone into rival factions, you don’t remember how to look at a dynamic situation thoughtfully anymore.



Dude what are you even talking about. I'm not saying every single person who says a positive thing about Putin's abilities are "praising" him.

Saying "Go Vlad" is praise though....and 15 people upvoted it. So to act like NOBODY is praising him is what is dishonest. It is definitely a small minority, but don't be dishonest and act like it isn't happening at all.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19933 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:35 am to
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You realize Russia has been complaining about NATO expansion for 2 decades now? The state of affairs in terms of energy is transient, given that Europeans themselves, among many other countries including countries which have extensive gas infrastructure, have been trying to provide Europe with natural gas.


And when did we really begin to cripple our energy sector? Hint, it was under the great divider in chief Obama. And by doing so who did we enrich? Then what did they do with that money?

That is just an example from energy. Tell me what sitting like a bitch in the corner taking up the arse did when Putin took Georgia or the Crimea? Not only emboldened him when he knew the reaction of weak leadership would be….but it allowed Putin to see his Army’s deficiencies and he took the money from above and rebuilt his Army to be even more effective.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:38 am to
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And when did we really begin to cripple our energy sector? Hint, it was under the great divider in chief Obama. And by doing so who did we enrich? Then what did they do with that money?



Man, you should really listen to Putin when he spoke in 2007.

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Tell me what sitting like a bitch in the corner taking up the arse did when Putin took Georgia or the Crimea? Not only emboldened him when he knew the reaction of weak leadership would be….but it allowed Putin to see his Army’s deficiencies and he took the money from above and rebuilt his Army to be even more effective.





The one time the US went against Russian-backed forces in Syria, it was a bloodbath. There are other nations who have good militaries with more experience fighting that could easily match Russia currently.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
19735 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:41 am to
I am.

Putin isn’t the bad guy in this, at least not entirely. He will likely take advantage of the situation and go too far cuz he’s Russian, but this is all on the deep state:

LINK - TD - Stew Peters nails it on Ukraine
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 11:43 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19695 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:44 am to
They used that same line on Charles Lindbergh b/c he didn't want us in WW2 prior to Pearl Harbor.
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1727 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:45 am to
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Putin is wrong for invading Ukraine.



Yes, he is.

But every liberal on this board who voted for Joe Biden and condoned the theft of this past election by the Democrats is directly responsible for the results of Putin's actions.

If we could send those same liberals over to Ukraine to help fight Putin, I would be all for it. Let them shed their blood, but not one single young American with real brain cells should shed a single drop of blood.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:54 am to
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It is the left projecting a narrative, as usual. The "praise" is not praise at all. It is simply an acknowledgement that it was a shrewd political move on his part to take advantage of the feckless and pathetic leadership of the western nations.
Exactly. I can say Nick Saban is a good football coach. Still want to beat the crap of alabama every year.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36080 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:57 am to
He does not.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55426 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 12:10 pm to
You can guess all you want. The facts are as follows:

1- he took Crimea under Obama.

2- he took nothing but a slap to the face when Trump killed his boys in Syria and never took a damn bit of Ukraine.

3- he is taking Ukraine under Biden who removed sanctions.


Don't give a damn about your guess, but I do history. And that is a fact of history
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2108 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 12:40 pm to
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Who is praising Putin?


RT America Live Stream
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2108 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 12:45 pm to
Before you dismiss this as propaganda - I will follow this by reminding people that OAN regularly uses RT journalists and airs RT segments on its network. Rachel Maddow called it propaganda and OAN sued her for defamation - they lost and had to pay her restitution.

Point is - if you call this propaganda, you are siding with Rachel over OAN. Trumps favorite network OAN called RT legitimate news.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135804 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 1:52 pm to
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anti-American and anti-NATO shrill hype.
When your parent(s) punished you as a kid, when they criticized your poor choices, were they anti-OchoDedos? or were they disappointed supporters berating your undercapacity performance, and suggesting you do better?
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