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re: White liberals and black people are asked whether voter ID laws are racist.

Posted on 8/29/24 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37314 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 9:55 pm to
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the fact they tend to suppress the black vote.

Why does voter ID suppress the black vote?

Don't give me talking points from 1964. Tell me why, in 2024, requiring that a person verify their identify to cast a vote suppresses the vote on the basis of race.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
66652 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 12:14 am to
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The only people strongly against voter ID in America are those who want to commit fraud.

Everyone knows that ID is required for basic daily activity and voter ID is mandatory in almost all countries. Why not here?
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Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51403 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 12:20 am to
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the fact they tend to suppress the black vote.

Dafuq? You're saying there are myriad blacks who formally don't exist (and vote).
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
1062 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 12:53 am to
Not having Voter ID suppresses way more legal citizen's votes by allowing cheating to cancel out their votes..
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35926 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:40 am to
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Both things are true. Republicans support voter ID laws because of election integrity and the fact they tend to suppress the black vote.


The black votes that are being suppressed are those of Republican blacks by Dems who vote illegally!
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17204 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 6:13 am to
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To the white liberals credit, black continue to vote overwhelmingly how liberals want them to.


This was my exact thought. That is why they think they are dumb. They keep falling for their bullshite, knowing it’s bullshite.
Posted by Furious
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
1329 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 6:28 am to
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lol. By your simplistic level of thinking, any who points out any information contrary to your worldview must be a member of the other (evil) team.


You are an idiot and are missing the point. Liberals assume that black people are stupid, helpless, and unable to think for themselves. That is a fact, in fact their democrat overlords are banking on it to win elections.

Voter ID laws ensure that the person that is voting is doing so legitimately. Do we let people on airplanes without IDs, no. Are we racist for forcing that, no.

Liberals like you are disgusting. I pray that Jesus has mercy in your soul.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5237 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 6:38 am to
Good Lord. Black people should be offended re how stupid and helpless these young white folks think they are. And they themselves sound too stupid to vote. Parent failure there.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39521 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 6:46 am to
If someone is too stupid or incompetent to be able to obtain an ID voting should be the least of their worries
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18619 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 7:08 am to
White woke view black people as pets similar to dogs or cats. Would any of you believe your cat or dog has the ability to get state ids by themselves? Hell no.


Msm, universities and Democrats will also use black people as representatives to get on camera and say it's almost impossible for black people to get ids. That affirms to white woke that the extremely racist narrative is legit.
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
3252 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 8:01 am to
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White liberals and black people are asked whether voter ID laws are racist.
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and the fact they tend to suppress the black vote.

Geez you people are delusional hacks.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299628 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 8:09 am to
White progressives are the dumbest demographic on the planet.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
25551 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 8:12 am to
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Both things are true. Republicans support voter ID laws because of election integrity
absolutely.

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and the fact they tend to suppress the black vote.
why? The folks you’re imagining are being suppressed are people that aren’t interested in voting anyway. Not having an ID doesn’t suppress anyone’s vote that would want to vote. People that don’t have IDs are people like this in Hollywood, CA

Not a single one of those mfrs that didn’t say Trump is interested in voting
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Dems just want them on voter rolls so they can “steal” their vote
This post was edited on 8/30/24 at 8:16 am
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 8:59 am to
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I’ve linked one study below after a quick google search.



You stupid mother fricker. That's an opinion piece with absolutely zero actual factual data, but rather, replies on surveys and possible outcomes. It is exactly the same thing as the OP. People are told one thing, so it must be true. "Let's now report it as fact. We may even one day have some stupid son of a bitch on a website use it as factual data and post links to it."

Never mind all of that, your original statement that conservatives support them BECAUSE of your make believe racist reasoning is not even supported by this ridiculous "study".
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6289 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 1:18 pm to
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I read the study you linked. It sounds like BS to me. They admit themselves IN THE VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH that most studies show that voter ID laws do NOT suppress the ABILITY of minorities to vote. But THESE researchers have done a study that shows that it does. Okay. Most studies still show the opposite. I think you have 3 Leftists here who knew what results they wanted before they ever asked the first question


I didn’t attest to the veracity of the study, I merely provided it as an example of someone making the claim I found in a quick google search.

I do stand by my original premise in this thread. Everyone agrees that, in a vacuum, verifying the identity of the person voting and that person’s legal right to vote is proper.

As a “side effect” of doing so, Republicans and Democrats both genuinely believe that it will suppress some legitimate voters, and both believe that it will have a disproportionate effect on certain voters.

Neither side is acting out of altruism in the position they take, nor in the priority they place on the issue. Both sides are more concerned with how it affects their party winning.




Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79465 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 1:26 pm to
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They did it because they were losing elections. While preventing fraudulent voting is a part of it, suppressing turnout is as much or more a reason. If you disagree you are being willfully ignorant.


bullshite...saying voter ID supresses the black vote, yet these same black voters can produce every form of ID to prove who they are to attain their "entitlements"...

Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5237 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 1:45 pm to
Well, if a black person’s vote is suppressed bc he or she is too stupid or criminal to obtain an ID, suppression for that voter is proper.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6289 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:03 pm to
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bullshite...saying voter ID supresses the black vote, yet these same black voters can produce every form of ID to prove who they are to attain their "entitlements"...


Fwiw, a person, white or black, does not have to provide a government issued photo ID to receive food assistance benefits.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6289 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Well, if a black person’s vote is suppressed bc he or she is too stupid or criminal to obtain an ID, suppression for that voter is proper.


You mean you don’t even want to count it as 3/5ths any more?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299628 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:06 pm to
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You mean you don’t even want to count it as 3/5ths any more?


Not if they dont have the intellect to get a free or $5 dollar ID card.

Obviously Democrats dont believe black folks have this intellect. Why?
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