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re: Where did Desantis say he wouldn’t run if Trump did?
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:01 am to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:01 am to DavidTheGnome
They can both run but only one will win the party nomination
That’s the one that we vote for
That’s the one that we vote for
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 8:02 am
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:04 am to Langland
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If he is the real deal, he will be a shoe for president in 2028.
Other than your hopes, why?
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He knows Trump is more qualified to repair the economy
Trump was largely ineffective in his first 4-year term. What evidence do you have that he will be able to do much in another term?
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:In the race for President in 2012, Rick Perry was a hugely popular national figure as Texas Governor. He was a virtual shoe-in for the Whitehouse, enjoying at one point as much as a 30 point lead over all other candidates. All it took was a single "oops" and he was done. The opposition candidates and the media pounced on him like a pack of wolves on a lamb to make sure he was finished.
Bobby Jindal and Rick Perry were also involved early.
Another popular Florida Governor, Jeb Bush, had previously been touted as a shoe-in, had an amazing war chest and the majority of the establishment conservative support. All it took was being labeled as "low-energy" by a smart mouthed guy who was told he couldn't insult his way to the Presidency.
The point is, for DeSantis, if he runs, he better be ready, he better not make a mistake and he better have a retort ready to eviscerate Trump if, no... WHEN Trump attacks and tries to label him. I would rather see Trump run unopposed so he can save his energy to attack the left and then announce DeSantis as his running mate at the convention. That would be awesome. DeSantis would be able to come out of the primary unscathed and ready to go on the attack. If he decides to run, I hope it is because Trump encourages him to.
It would be amazing to see him run and say, "I hope you vote for Donald Trump. He deserves four more years. He did an amazing job as president. But if you won't vote for him, I hope you'll vote for me. I would continue the work he started to build the wall, restore our military to sanity and strengthen it, bring business home, reduce our deficit spending, stand up against totalitarian regimes across the world and against our borders, and always follow an "American First" policy on the world stage. A strong America is good for the world peace. Under President Trump the country enjoyed prosperity, jobs, security and no inflation. There were no new wars, Putin was in check, China was in check and North Korea was on its way to normalizing relations with the world. The terrorists were defeated in the Middle East and a peaceful transition of power was possible in Afghanistan. President Trump was immeasurable in his success.
It would be an honor to have him back as our President, but I recognize the current state of polarization in the country. If elected, I would work hard to bring our country together, but make no mistake about it. My intentions are to emulate President Trump's successes."
Would this work? Would he be the guy that people vote for because they want what Trump offered before, but they just don't want the drama associated with Trump. Also, would taking this tactic to the stage help DeSantis avoid being attacked and labeled by Trump? Maybe. Hard to cut the knees out from under someone who is building you up and covering your flank.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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There are no more Nixons today. Politicians have a brief moment of popularity and then they lose luster. It's not just a GOP thing. Hillary will always hate Obama because 2008 was her time and we saw how badly she embarrassed everyone in 2016 by losing to Trump.
Obama in 2008 is kind of like Desantis now, honestly. Hillary wins in 2008 and Obama's Presidential hopes are dead, because a Republican was almost guaranteed to win in 2016 in that scenario, which puts off Obama's run until 2020 or 2024.
Exactly.......
Nixon lost in '60 but won in 68 because the country was in turmoil (bad economy, unpopular war, social unrest) and there were no good Democrat candidates. LBJ announced he wouldn't seek a second term and RFK was assassinated. He was also running against firebrand Goldwater who scared the shite out of people.
Reagan had to defer to Ford in 76 after getting out of office in 1975 as Governor of California. He then ran and won handily against a deeply unpopular incumbent who bungled foreign affairs and oversaw raging inflationary economy.
Does 1968 and 1980 sound like its lining up just right for DeSantis in 2024? A deeply unpopular Democrat, a field bereft of any other Democratic candidates stagflation, and a Republican opponent who is highly polarizing?
Yes - it was Hillary's turn in 2008 and then his charismatic newcomer came along. Obama won over the Democrats and and the country despite very limited experience. Say whatever else you want, but he is still hugely popular.
Anyone who thinks DeSantis should sit this one out is a fool. Its DeSantis' for the taking.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:49 am to rmnldr
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TDS goes both ways.
This goes out to the grown arse men on here that refer to Trump as “daddy”
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:53 am to 14&Counting
quote:Goldwater did not run against Nixon in 1968.
Nixon lost in '60 but won in 68 because the country was in turmoil (bad economy, unpopular war, social unrest) and there were no good Democrat candidates. LBJ announced he wouldn't seek a second term and RFK was assassinated. He was also running against firebrand Goldwater who scared the shite out of people.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:54 am to HubbaBubba
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Would this work? Would he be the guy that people vote for because they want what Trump offered before, but they just don't want the drama associated with Trump. Also, would taking this tactic to the stage help DeSantis avoid being attacked and labeled by Trump? Maybe. Hard to cut the knees out from under someone who is building you up and covering your flank.
I dunno if exactly how you laid out but Desantis is essentially Trump without all the BS that comes along with Trump, a better version of him. And Trumps playbook is nothing new now, in 2016 the way he ran was all new and a breath of fresh air from the usual BS. But it’s been played out though, yes he’ll make a funny nickname up for Desantis and say some nasty stuff etc but people are past that now and frankly don’t want it.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:57 am to DavidTheGnome
Back to the original question though, so is the answer that on Ben Shapiros show he hinted that he wouldn’t run if Trump did but didn’t explicitly say it and that’s what people on here keep referring to?
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No. His name is good now, but it's highly unlikely he'll have the same luster in 6 years.
What is this shite?
Desantis will be in office until Jan 2027. The primaries begin in Feb 2028. If he announces in Jan 2027, he would probably be one of the last ones to do so. He will still be swinging a big stick. If not, then he should never have run anyway
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:37 pm to Atlas_Shrugged
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never trumpers will vote for Desantis but not Trump (you know mean tweets and all)
Baw it’s independent voters in general not just the never trumpers of the GOP. And it’s definitely more than simply saying dumb stuff on Twitter. Instead of focusing on cutting spending our deficit increased while cutting taxes which heavily favored the wealthy (and in top of that heavily favored the extremely wealthy), raised taxes on all Americans in the form of tariffs, allowed Fauci far too much power to shut our economy down for a year, and other stuff like that. Yeah he was an embarrassment on Twitter but that’s not the only reason people won’t vote for him.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:26 pm to Atlas_Shrugged
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in a no win situation against Trump.
He’s a much better candidate in 2024 than Trump.
Trump will be 78. And motivates 40+ percent of left voters to get out and pull the lever against him.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
jjdoc’s cousin’s uncle’s boyfriend’s niece’s lawn mower apparently heard it straight from DeSantis’ mouth, and that’s one hell of a source.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:41 pm to OMLandshark
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jjdoc’s cousin’s uncle’s boyfriend’s niece’s lawn mower apparently heard it straight from DeSantis’ mouth, and that’s one hell of a source.
Who works at The Gateway Pundit. It’s jjdoc so gotta remember that part
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:45 pm to DavidTheGnome
Oddly enough, jjdoc’s source lives right around the corner from the source that’s equally as certain that Desantis is indeed running. Awwkward!!
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He only has 1 more term I believe. Florida has term limits on governor. I don't think a Senate seat will come available anytime soon, either. And if he doesn't run in 2024, his Presidency hopes decrease incredibly
It makes a ton of sense to finish out being the Florida governor (would leave office early 2027) and then announce a run for 2028.
That timing is perfect. He can devote all his time to the campaign trail.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Another term as governor and his stock won't drop. Mainly because this woke shite is perpetually invasive... and there will be plenty of opportunities for him to stay in the headlines by batting that shite down.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:20 am to Stidham8
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It makes a ton of sense to finish out being the Florida governor (would leave office early 2027) and then announce a run for 2028.
That timing is perfect. He can devote all his time to the campaign trail.
Although it may be much more difficult to defeat the incumbent in 2028 assuming Biden doesn’t run for a second tern, though it’s a very strong assumption given that his party and his wife want him to hang it up, I’d guess before he even finishes this term. Also assuming Kamala doesn’t run for it.
Anyone other than that though he’d have to unseat and we’d just have to pray they will be mired in controversy or had a terrible term, although that would mean the US would have to endure four years of their “terrible term”, and given what we’ve been through with just half of one so far with Biden I don’t think we can survive another four years of Dem control. I mean if Newsome the country would have to shut down any time a Covid case is reported for instance.
So nah, 2024 is the perfect time for him to run. Our country needs it bad.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:35 am to Atlas_Shrugged
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I agree with you on the Fauci stuff but tariffs is where I jump off. We cannot compete with slave labor that China has if you want to bring back American manufacturing tariffs are necessary to even the playing field.
I mean I *might* agree with you if they are for an industry that has sort of national security interest or requires an enormous capital investment like a refinery and that we have it already although it had to shut down due to labor cost.
And I dunno the same people that complain that “taxation is theft” celebrated Trump raising taxes on Americans through the tariffs. Which I guess is another example of how Trumpkins abandon their core principles or twist them up in some sort of Gordian knot so that it aligns with anything he says or does.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:09 am to SlowFlowPro
Wow, getting a reminder to the miserable Rino field that we had to
Choose from just shows how much Trump was needed & how much he woke up the base and shined the light on the Swamp.
Most of those names we all thought were good guys for the most part, until Trump showed us the light!
Choose from just shows how much Trump was needed & how much he woke up the base and shined the light on the Swamp.
Most of those names we all thought were good guys for the most part, until Trump showed us the light!
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:14 am to DavidTheGnome
He isn't going to run. The far left media are baiting him into running but, as he has shown over and over again, he won't take their bait, no matter how much the Democrats on this board hope he will run against Trump.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 1:15 am
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