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re: Where did all the water that caused the Mystic River flooding come from?

Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:13 am to
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19208 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:13 am to
I would be shocked if there aren’t flood maps of the Guadalupe showing the anticipated high level mark for extreme flooding. They’re not always accurate and are revised often, but you can spend a few minutes on Google earth and clearly see the flood plain along those rivers in the area.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22788 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:37 am to
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You can continue to mock and jeer, but look around you: the past 10-15 years it has literally been every man for himself per abnormal weather events. We're all at the mercy of abnormal, even deadly weather events, whether it's hurricanes, violent tornadoes, derechos, floods, mudslides, lightning, firestorms, etc. Something's amiss, and it's the result of an ~ 80% increase in atmospheric CO2 levels since 1950. Case closed.


And the dinosaurs I assume all died because of their massive farts jacking up the CO2 levels?

The thing that is “amiss” is the narcissistic nature of man, thinking that these weather events are an anomaly because they are the only ones we have been around to see.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18930 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:39 am to
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Put 1 in 1000 to the 4th power and you get an infinitesimally tiny number-- impossible to attain without the existence of a climate crisis.



You are hopelessly retarded, and mathematically uneducated. Typical.
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
1992 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:40 am to
You slept through The Water Cycle in science class didn't you?
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27919 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:46 am to
It's Cow Farts according to leading Democrats.

"Democrats claim cow farts cause global warming"

Democratic lawmakers have introduced legislation aiming to measure and potentially regulate methane emissions from livestock operations. For instance, Washington state Democrats introduced House Bill 1630 which sought to require dairy farms and feedlots to report their annual methane emissions.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez emissions from sources like "farting cows". While the summary did not explicitly advocate for eliminating cows, it acknowledged the issue as a factor in achieving emissions reduction goals.

Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30741 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:47 am to
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You are hopelessly retarded

Just keep up with the ad hominem attacks. Go at it with more fervor, it may even straighten out the climate.
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mathematically uneducated

Not hardly. I know that 10^(-3)^(4)= 10^-12, or 1:1,000,000,000,000. That's a one in a TRILLION chance, in layman's terms.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 9:49 am
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2268 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:51 am to
I read a few years ago that if dinosaur were on Earth today they would suffocate and die poorly. To much O2 in the atmosphere, not enough CO2.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2268 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:54 am to
There are flood maps, this flooding isn't anything new. What's new is the vast migration of US citizens into Texas and lack of awareness and respect for the weather.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50963 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:04 am to
All that is coincidental. Going back 63-70 years to 1955:
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May 1955 – Austin and Central Texas (Flash Flood in "Flash Flood Alley"):Description: Heavy rainfall in Central Texas, particularly in the Austin area, caused flash flooding along the Colorado River and its tributaries. The region, known as "Flash Flood Alley" due to its steep terrain and thin soils, saw rapid water rises in creeks and streams.
Impact:Loss of Life: Specific death tolls for this event are not well-documented in the sources, but flash floods in this region typically caused fatalities due to vehicles being swept away or sudden inundation of low-lying areas.
Property Damage: Significant damage to homes, businesses, and infrastructure in Austin and surrounding areas, with costs in the millions (1955 dollars). Bridges and roads were washed out, and urban areas like Austin experienced severe disruption.
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August 1955 – Guadalupe River Basin (Hurricane Diane Remnants):Description: The remnants of Hurricane Diane, following Hurricane Connie, brought heavy rainfall to the Guadalupe River Basin in Central Texas, causing flash flooding in tributaries around Kerrville and Comfort. The rapid rise of water overwhelmed local streams.
Impact:Loss of Life: At least a few deaths were reported in Texas, though exact numbers are not specified in the sources. The broader regional impact (including Connecticut and the Delaware River Basin) suggests localized fatalities in Texas.
Property Damage: Damage to homes, farms, and infrastructure along the Guadalupe River, with costs contributing to the regional total of over $350 million (1955 dollars) for the hurricane-related floods.
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May 24–25, 1957 – Central and North Texas (Multiple Flash Flood Events):Description: A series of intense thunderstorms dumped heavy rain across Central and North Texas, particularly affecting the Brazos River Basin and areas around Fort Worth and Austin. Flash flooding occurred in urban and rural areas due to rapid runoff in creeks and streams.
Impact:Loss of Life: At least 20 deaths were reported across Texas, with many occurring when vehicles were swept away in flash floods or people were trapped in low-lying areas.
Property Damage: Over $10 million (1957 dollars) in damages, with significant destruction to homes, businesses, and agricultural lands. Fort Worth saw extensive street flooding, and rural bridges were destroyed.
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September 1960 – South Texas (Hurricane Abby Remnants):Description: The remnants of Hurricane Abby brought torrential rains to South Texas, particularly the Rio Grande Valley, causing flash flooding in urban areas like Brownsville and rural streams. Up to 10 inches of rain fell in a few hours.
Impact:Loss of Life: At least 5 deaths reported, primarily from vehicles swept away in flash-flooded low-water crossings.
Property Damage: Millions in damages (1960 dollars) to homes, crops, and infrastructure, with significant flooding in Brownsville and surrounding areas.
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June 1962 – Texas Hill Country (Guadalupe River Basin):Description: Intense thunderstorms dumped over 8 inches of rain in the Texas Hill Country, causing flash flooding along the Guadalupe River and its tributaries near Kerrville and Comfort.
Impact:Loss of Life: At least 3–5 deaths reported, mostly from people caught in rapidly rising waters.
Property Damage: Damage to homes, campgrounds, and roads, with costs estimated at several million dollars (1962 dollars). Campgrounds along the Guadalupe River were particularly hard-hit.
All this is from USGS historical flood records and Texas weather archives. Been flash flooding in Texas before men settled the area.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30741 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:09 am to
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vast migration of US citizens into Texas and lack of awareness

Nearly all of the victims were native Texans; most lived nearby the disaster site.

One factor that led to the incredible number of victims was the timing of the flood event-- many were celebrating the 4th of July vacation on the Guadalupe River, which has been a popular recreation spot in Texas for generations. This proved to be the proverbial "perfect storm."
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19208 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:11 am to
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Not hardly. I know that 10^(-3)^(4)= 10^-12, or 1:1,000,000,000,000. That's a one in a TRILLION chance, in layman's terms.


Please answer my question.

What data do you draw from to conclude these are 1 in 1000 year events, particularly TX where this region has the moniker “Flash Flood Alley”?
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7638 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:13 am to
The soil in the Hill Country of Texas is called caliche.

It is similar to concrete and it has very little top soil on it.

Like concrete it does not absorb water very well.

20 inches of rain just runs off of it and causes a flood.


21 through 26 is caliche on this soil map -


And it looks like this-

Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4913 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:25 am to
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Here are four record weather events, each with a 0.1% chance of happening. Put 1 in 1000 to the 4th power and you get an infinitesimally tiny number-- impossible to attain without the existence of a climate crisis.


you already know you're wrong because you're a queer alter who pretends to be super liberal and trolls the board incessantly, but your dumbass calculation assumes a 1,000 year flood occurring 4 times in the same watershed. that would be an infinitesimally small chance.

the actual calculation you'd want to do would be over tens or hundreds of thousands of local watersheds spread across the entire country, each with its own 0.1% chance. THAT calculation gives you a statistical certainly that "four" 1,000 year floods will happen

chatpgt for the true believers:

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The U.S. has about 100,000 HUC-12 subwatersheds, which are the most detailed commonly used level for flood risk and water resource planning.


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With 100,000 watersheds, the probability that at least 4 "1,000-year floods" occur in a given year is effectively 100% — it's a statistical certainty.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 10:35 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:37 pm to
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and it's the result of an ~ 80% increase in atmospheric CO2 levels since 1950. Case closed.


So you believe CO2 is responsible for weather? Please, explain then, intelligently. How does CO2 affect:

1) Hurricanes
2) Violent Tornadoes
3) Derechos
4) Floods
5) Mudslides
6) Lightning
7) Firestorms

You're so comically ignorant. You're saying that all of these things is because of CO2?

2) Please show the data of "80% increase in atmospheric CO2 levles.
3) Please show the data that shows that CO2 has a greater impact on weather than water vapor.
4) Please show the exact % of CO2 produced by man, and it's % of global CO2.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19879 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Mystic River


At least know the name of the river dude!
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22768 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:40 pm to
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So you believe CO2 is responsible for weather? Please, explain then, intelligently. How does CO2 affect:


He can take comfort in that the use of hydrocarbons will likely wane away in the next 100 to 200 years as we exit the era of hydrocarbons. Then the planet can "heal".
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19428 posts
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:41 pm to
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Can someone please help me understand where the 20 feet of water that caused the catastrophic flooding on the Mystic River came from.

The sky?????
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