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re: What's your take on Trump allowing more beef imports into the US?

Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11789 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:28 pm to
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But, if it's that our ranchers can't meet demand, all he had to say was "I love our cattle ranchers, but they can't meet demand, and we have to look out for the consumer, too." He's completely tone deaf now. Nobody cares about Argentina.


That's a valid point, and a mark against Trump.

We, as conservatives, could also help spread the proper message to overcome Trump's shortcomings instead of just complaining. I think that would be more beneficial in the long-term.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25999 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:31 pm to
Beef prices remain high....are the US cattlemen really suffering?

The big problem are the giant companies that have put the 200 acre farms out of business....Tyson, Smithfield, etc...
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13567 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:50 pm to
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I wanna know more about this shortage because supply hasn’t gone down and prices haven’t gone up.

quote:

The total U.S. cattle and calf inventory dropped to a 75-year low of 86.2 million head as of January 1, 2026


Posted by CovingtonCrooner
Covington (future capital of LA)
Member since Aug 2025
131 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:53 pm to
I was on a cattle farm with the owner/farmer and he was not the slightest bit upset or concerned about the new supply coming in. In fact, he was extremely thankful and blessed at how lucky he was to be in the situation he is with mature cattle.
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
1602 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:58 pm to
If our own meat packing producers are going to gouge their fellow citizens then allow competition to remind them how that works.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11511 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:59 pm to
mathematical addition of beef and pork to come up with a market impact sounds a lot like apples and oranges
Posted by JoseyWalesLA
Texas
Member since Dec 2012
227 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 9:04 pm to
Yes sir, of course ...I'd prefer some assistance for the 15% of cattle ranchers like yourself...like what we do for Farmers during prolonged bad weather conditions.

My buddy raises cattle but on a small scale - sells to boutique butcher shops and fancy restaurants. He's happy and content...but he shares with me the difficulty of large scale cattle ranching...

It's pretty nuanced and definitely the large scale buyers like Walmart and grocery chains play a role...in the profit margins.

But...I'd still like GOOD foreign beef to be readily available.
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3522 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 9:05 pm to
All for it and I support the ranchers. It’s not mutually exclusive. They need to get to work and provide more beef as quickly as feasible. Do not let anyone fool you regarding Argentina beef. It’s some of the finest in the world. I have visited several times, and it is grass fed and fabulous.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9981 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:27 pm to
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Ummmm... McDonalds may not be the best example when talking about real meat....



Not a single steak is getting imported.

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How it is used and mixed

U.S. packers have done this for years. They take fatty trimmings from U.S. fed cattle and blend them with very lean imported trim until they hit the fat target (80/20, 85/15, etc.). That is how most commercial ground beef is made.
The White House explicitly limited this quota to lean trim “to combine with U.S. beef for ground beef” and said it is meant to compete with the cull-cow market (old dairy/beef cows that also produce lean trim), not the fed-cattle market.


All of it is making ground meat.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91805 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 5:28 am to
The whole plan from the climate cult on the left was to lower our beef consumption. Lower the supply to raise prices was a feature.





Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91805 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 5:31 am to
You are trying to reason with a dude who follows lefties on social media and believes every emotional call.

He's willing to allow drugs to come into our country and strait up lies about them just being fisherman.

Bunk is as anti American as any democrat.

Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18526 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 5:41 am to
last week the neighborhood Wall mart i go to had wild caught sockey and ling cod it was legit they sometimes have deals like this
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
13447 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:04 am to
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Ummmm... McDonalds may not be the best example when talking about real meat....


You would be surprised at how well McDonalds is able to vertically integrate all of its supply chain and how it manages its suppliers.

Some of them are subsidiaries so McDonalds can control the price and the quality. That is why every year when there is a tomato shortage, McDonalds is somehow unaffected by this because they own or manage their own tomato farms.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159571 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:35 am to
Far too often, alternative facts are leaned upon.

ETA: damn. Again today. Days since: 0
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 6:46 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70227 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:38 am to
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He's willing to allow drugs to come into our country and strait up lies about them just being fisherman.

Bunk is as anti American as any democrat.

I've covered this over and over. Incinerating a boat that is taking cocaine to Trinidad and Tobago based on some narco terror theory is wild to me.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
3087 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:38 am to
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If the sky screamers are screaming then I’m happy


You're a dumbass
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57607 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:42 am to
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The other thing that is killing local ranchers is these big corporations are being allowed to hire illegals while your smaller ranchers aren't able to break the law without fear of going bankrupt.

I have a small ranch in the Rockies (just 10 acres). The guy who used to take care of the pastures is a “local rancher”.

Ed spent his whole life harvesting hay and alfalfa, at first for others but increasingly for himself as he acquired property. He also runs cattle on national park lands.

Ed gave up working for me, and most of his other clients. because he is making so much money on cattle. The man who started out a poor cowboy, who spent much of his life moving hand lines and riding horses on round-ups, is now rich. And he did it by raising beef.

To your point: There isn’t anything killing “local ranchers”.

And BTW, the man who I hired after Ed is Fernando, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who married an American. He started out as a hand for a landscape business and now has his own business. He works hard and is reliable. Fernando will be rich in another 15 years, just like ED. Another hard worker who is achieving the American dream.
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 6:43 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57607 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:50 am to
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Again we don’t have a shortage we have a small protest of people who want more money than they’re worth.

In other words, a cartel that is looking for the government to protect its monopolistic pricing.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57607 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:56 am to
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It didn't cost a single dollar more to let a cow graze, post covid. Yet they colluded and raised prices double.

That is so incorrect that I wonder about your motives.

Covid caused the shutdown of meat packing facilities. This created a shortage of meat, not cows on the hoof. And a shortage did what shortages always do; it drove up the price. This is standard supply and demand stuff with not a whiff of collusion. (Plenty of stupidity and overreaction, though).
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 6:59 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38618 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 7:37 am to
You only need to kill the cow once. Why disrespect it in death by going the well done route. Ketchup on a steak is just wrong.
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