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re: What's your take on Trump allowing more beef imports into the US?

Posted on 8/28/26 at 7:49 am to
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17410 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 7:49 am to
It will hurt American cattle ranchers big time as they have to now deal with lower prices at a time when their costs are the highest ever

It’s like what trump is doing with the Jones Act waivers that he granted for foreign vessels working in US waters. He just keeps granting the waivers and the vessels just keep on taking American jobs


Trump talks pro American but his actions sure don’t back it up
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
4417 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 7:51 am to
Where’s the beef…..
Posted by Friscodog
Ruston, LA. (Formerly Frisco TX)
Member since Jul 2009
5296 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 8:21 am to
I buy my beef local. We buy half steer every year from neighbor. Plan to get a few head and raise my own beef in a couple years. Doesn't really impact me.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
6647 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:14 am to
There is certainly no argument that McD's can usually maintain its supply. At least with meats.
The argument I made, however, is how much of their meats is actually meat.
Which has been a very, very, very long standing argument. Particularly to their burgers.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
13120 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:21 am to
A comment from someone who lives in midwest cattle country:

Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
13120 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:24 am to
quote:

I buy my beef local. We buy half steer every year from neighbor. Plan to get a few head and raise my own beef in a couple years. Doesn't really impact me.


I hope you have enough acreage and the machinery to plant and harvest hay and a place to put it...cattle eat a lot.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
8613 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:46 am to
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Covid caused the shutdown of meat packing facilities. This created a shortage of meat, not cows on the hoof. And a shortage did what shortages always do; it drove up the price. This is standard supply and demand stuff with not a whiff of collusion. (Plenty of stupidity and overreaction, though).


See, you let them wash you. A shortage in production COULD POSSIBLY create a very short term lack of product, but it simply didn't. Never was there no meat on supermarket shelves.
But following your logic, that would cause a surplus of cows, which would..........flood the market and lower beef costs.
Packing plant slowdown was a myth, sold to all to artificially inflate pricing. Hasn't been covid for years, but prices are even higher. Hmmmmmmm?

Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
4025 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 12:26 pm to
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This is one of those situations where no matter what the President does, someone will criticize.

Agreed. Personally I'm all for POTUS fixing issues he helped cause.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20973 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 12:28 pm to
My take is who TF let us get to this point where the US has a shortage of beef?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
58654 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:22 pm to
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A shortage in production COULD POSSIBLY create a very short term lack of product, but it simply didn't. Never was there no meat on supermarket shelves.

You have a basic misunderstanding of supply and demand and the price point. Only an extreme shortage would translate into no product on shelves. Normally shortages result in higher prices. How high? High enough to keep product on the shelves.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
92463 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

Agreed. Personally I'm all for POTUS fixing issues he helped cause.



Trump is not the reason we don't slaughter cattle like we used to.

Plus Trump is giving a bone to ranchers on processing while there is a 90 day pause on beef tariffs.


Most of you will cry about anything while understanding nothing. Bunch of emotional women.








Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
92463 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

My take is who TF let us get to this point where the US has a shortage of beef?



Cows cause climate change.


Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2465 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Agreed. Personally I'm all for POTUS fixing issues he helped cause.


This is a problem that the president did not create.

He has created enough problems that you don't need to make shite up like this.

Enough with the sciolistic nonsense. You don't know what you are talking about.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
8613 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:09 pm to
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Normally shortages

LOLOLOL

Cows were NOT in shortage. Product available and end product remained on ALL shelves.

You fricking clowns call it a shortage somehow? No mf'er, you are the one who doesn't understand supply and demand. Demand nor supply dropped.

Again, show me just 2 place where they posted signs saying "out of beef products" It didn't happen.

Listen, if covid lessened workers in processing plants, yet no shortage was recognized...then there was zero shortage. Shortage means lack of availability to end consumer
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2244 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:21 pm to
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We allow Vietnamese seafood, why not Argentinian beef?


We do, and see what happened to Mississippi-Arkansas-Alabama catfish farmers.

Counterpoint, why does a country need to produce its own food?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
58654 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:39 am to
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Cows were NOT in shortage. Product available and end product remained on ALL shelves.

You have a severe comprehension problem. I already posted that cows were not in shortage, but that is irrelevant. We are not talking about cow prices; we are talking about beef on the supermarket shelves.

It is well known that meat packing plants were operating sporadically due to virus outbreaks. THAT was what created the shortage. Any economist could tell you that the price of cows should have gone DOWN in that situation, and the price of beef should have gone up.

Your fixation on bare shelves is surprisingly strange. Surely you’ve noticed prices going up and down without the amount of product on shelves changing noticeably. Have you noticed gasoline prices going up? Have you seen gas stations posting signs saying, “Out of Gas”?
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3694 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:09 am to
I think the “America” in “America First” means the American people first, not always industry. Frequently, the needs of Americans and American industry are one and the same. But perhaps lowering proves in beef is good for Americans but not the American beef industry
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
4017 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:35 am to
For the 10k time, cattle farmers culled their herds to drive up beef prices. They did it to themselves
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4956 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 7:21 am to
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our own meat packing producers are going to gouge their fellow citizens then allow competition to remind them how that works.


BINGO. Inventory is purposely low, IMO, to protect profit.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
8613 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 9:39 am to
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Your fixation on bare shelves is surprisingly strange.


Hey dumbass, YOU claim shortsge. Where was the shortage if it wasnt on the shelves.
It didn't exist. No packing plants ran out and couldn't fill orders.
So...cows not shortage, retail not shortage, but clowns like you believe there was...but just can't explain where the shortage was.....except in higher prices. What about eggs? Lemme guess, a mythical shortage somewhere...but unexplained, lol

quote:

have a severe comprehension problem. I already posted that cows were not in shortage, but that is irrelevant. We are not talking about cow prices; we are talking about beef on the supermarket shelves.


My God, you must be a teen. Quite possibly the dumbest quote of all time. Prices of the sale of the cow, is absolutely directly related to the shelf price(which includes packing fees)
So if the meat was present, it was being packed! So where was the shortage.

Little boy, I understand what you're trying to say. In theory, I would agree. IF packing was so badly affected, then it would have shown as a shortage on shelves!!!! Raising the price doesn't produce more ..so again, where's the shortage. And IF your explanation were the true cause, then why haven't those costs gone down.

The fix was in, period! And this week, Trump is breaking up the fibers, by allowing the farmers to pack their own (across state lines now), which they could do before..it was only local. Do you know why Trump made that move? Because magically, prices will be half by this time next year, or sooner.

FYI, have you noticed pork didn't explode as high as beef?

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