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What's so hard about understanding the Iran war

Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:20 pm
Iran was building a rapidly expanding ballistic missile force capable of striking every major city in Europe—including London. For decades it pursued nuclear weapons and stood on the threshold of producing them in significant numbers. Once those two programs matured, Iran would hold the Middle East—and the oil that powers the modern industrial world—in a vise. Like North Korea, it would become untouchable.

The regime had repeatedly vowed to wipe Israel from the map. It calls America the “Great Satan” and makes no secret that we are next. Its leaders are driven by an apocalyptic Shia ideology that awaits the return of the Twelfth Imam and the Mahdi—an end-times figure whose arrival, in their view, requires the destruction of those who reject their faith.

I wish some other nation or coalition would share the burden of policing this threat. Europe may finally be stirring, but we could no longer wait. The United States had to act. The costs are real. They are still far smaller than the price of a nuclear-armed Iran able to deliver warheads across half the globe—and, eventually, into our own backyard.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98193 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:29 pm to
Something certainly had to be done but Trump and Handsome Pete didn’t anticipate not only the response from Iran, but their capabilities correctly.

How can we spend so much on safeguarding our nation against these people yet didn’t know the actual range of their missiles? That’s crazy to me.

Regardless, US needs to triumph here and soon. Hope Trump’s plan works as a lot is riding on the success of this campaign.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
7090 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:33 pm to
It’s not hard to understand. It was the same way before WW1 and WW2. No foreign wars! We have no business fighting a war on the European Continent! So we stayed out doing absolutely nothing. Until we couldn’t stay out anymore. WW2 is probably the best example. People howled if someone mentioned getting involved in the war. Then by the and of the afternoon on Dec 7 1941 everyone was yelling Get them!! Then we finally have to send our best of us over to fight and slog over all the territory Europe managed to lose. Had we just stood up at the beginning I often wonder how many lives could be saved by not allowing the enemy in the Pacific and Europe to take all that territory we had to fight back across. This Iran fight is no different. We can keep letting Iran kill a few here and there and let the numbers pile up or we can just go do this and get it over with. It sucks and I hate it but you can’t talk to these people anymore than you could talk to Tojo or Hitler.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
72510 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:33 pm to
Papering evil with some bombs won’t do shite. You have to cut it out completely like it’s cancer.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1919 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:34 pm to
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Yes - your intellectual response is dazzling. If you have no bullets in your gun, why take it out of the holster?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
72510 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:35 pm to
You have to go in there and commit atrocities. They only respond to one thing
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 9:36 pm
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
843 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:36 pm to
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The regime had repeatedly vowed to wipe Israel from the map. It calls America the “Great Satan” and makes no secret that we are next. Its leaders are driven by an apocalyptic Shia ideology that awaits the return of the Twelfth Imam and the Mahdi


Trump was about to give them 300 billion about 5 minutes ago and y'all were defending that, i guess the talking points are back to " Iran calls us ugly names and we have to defend our Greatest Ally(TM)"
If you cultists had any self-awareness you would see how embarrassing you are.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1919 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:46 pm to
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Trump was about to give them 300 billion about 5 minutes ago and y'all were defending that, i guess the talking points are back to " Iran calls us ugly names and we have to defend our Greatest Ally(TM)"
If you cultists had any self-awareness you would see how embarrassing you are.


The only reason Israel comes up in the discussion is because of the loud and decades long threats to Israel by Iran. Pure puffery until you actually have the tools to do it.

Trump never pledged the US to give money to Iran - but rather a coalition of Gulf States - and the funding was tied to behavior metrics of the Iranian government. It was the complimentary carrot to the current stick philosophy. Personally - I don't believe they should get a dime until the Theocracy is overthrown and a country with strong democratic institutions is stood up.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
6012 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:46 pm to
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Trump was about to give them
300 billion about 5 minutes ago


Dumbarse. That is not giving. That is their funds that their country actually owns. It was frozen in banks by this administration.

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If you cultists had any self-awareness you would see how embarrassing you are.


If you knew the actual facts then you would understand that your lack of self-awareness is not only embarrassing but idiotic. In short, you are the laughing stock here.
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
5756 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:48 pm to
You beat me to it. A-hole jumps in and post LMAO emoji but doesn't have the guts or intellect to say why.


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Yes - your intellectual response is dazzling. If you have no bullets in your gun, why take it out of the holster?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
17268 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:52 pm to
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Trump was about to give them 300 billion


You're not smarter than Joe Biden.
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
843 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:52 pm to
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Personally - I don't believe they should get a dime until the Theocracy is overthrown and a country with strong democratic institutions is stood up

bingo.
But a lot of the Trump glazers had no issues with the 300 billion to the mullahs just 2 weeks ago, they were praising him for the art of the deal and the 72D chess.Now they are back to "Iran is the world's greatest sponsors of terrorism". Ok, then why the frick were you ok with giving them all that money?
All I want to do is call out their hypocrisy.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2076 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:58 pm to
This is a very logical and rational analysis.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21317 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:58 pm to
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Dumbarse. That is not giving. That is their funds that their country actually owns.


after a decade of saying Obama gave Iran cash y'all now pretend to grasp the nuance of returning frozen assets. Didn't have that on my 2026 bingo card.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2076 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:59 pm to
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But a lot of the Trump glazers had no issues with the 300 billion to the mullahs just 2 weeks ago


This is some fake shite.

Not a penny was given to Iran "two weeks ago".
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
843 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:01 pm to
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Dumbarse. That is not giving. That is their funds that their country actually owns. It was frozen in banks by this administration.



From the MOU:
6. The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least $300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
11.The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MoU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations
Source
BTW thanks for reminding me of the fact that we were ALSO, on top of giving the world's greatest sponsor of terrorism 300 billion, going to unfreeze billions of their assets in foreign banks.

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If you knew the actual facts

The irony of this statement, too bad its probably lost on you.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 10:04 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6052 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:05 pm to
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What's so hard about understanding the Iran war


Qatar is our ally in this war. You know where Hamas leadership was living on October 7? Qatar is giant state sponsor of terrorism governed by an inbred family, but sure let’s fight their war.

Saudi Arabia is our ally on this war. You know who funded 9/11? Saudi is a giant state sponsor of terrorism governed by an inbred family, but sure let’s fight their war and give them nukes.

When all is said and all is done, we will have spent about $20 trillion dollars from 2001-2030 winning hearts and minds in the Middle East through war. And achieved nothing but debt and dead soldiers.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
7710 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:09 pm to
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Iran was building a rapidly expanding ballistic missile force capable of striking every major city in Europe—including London.


If the Iranians were smart/patient, they'd wait a few more years and let their own people destroy London via the bio weapon known as diversity.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7326 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:13 pm to
1. This ain’t a war
2. We’ve had like 19 of our guys die. Would you risk your life or your families life for this cause?
3. Let them destroy Israel. Ain’t our problem. Those Jews and Muslims will be fighting until humanity is extinct.
4. This escalation or skirmish will only embolden them against us cause we’re pussyfooting around, and they know once they get a nuke they’ll have all the chips.

Trump fricked up on this.
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