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re: What’s a real conservative solution to fix healthcare?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 5:04 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 12/12/24 at 5:04 pm to NC_Tigah
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Then you HAaATE it, right?
I really like that through the ACA marketplace, the lady that works for us in the home can get an affordable health insurance policy. It's great for her.
For us, we've never needed that ACA or any other lower cost option. We've always paid for our heath insurance through our work without needing a discount.
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 6:03 pm to RaoulDuke504
#1 - STOP paying for and subsidizing the International “Big Pharma Drug Usage”
this is what i read somewhere recently:
we pay more in-order to reduce it Globally
Bunch of horse crap!
#2 - STOP paying for ILLEGALS healthcare, if they are sick here and go to a hospital, send their arse to the holding center at the border and let them walk across and find healthcare there. Hate to be insensitive to someone’s health issues, but we have Americans that literally go bankrupt due to medical conditions and 6-figure medical bills. and we also have Vets that can’t get timely service, time to take care of ourselves.
#3 - Stop paying for lifelong welfare queen situations medical care. If they are physically able to get a job, go get one. limit the free care to 1-year max.
#4 - Once AI kicks in and the “super chips” are available for medical trials, they say it will cut $100’s of Billions in trial expenses and cut down the trial period by 80-90%, when will this come? i don’t know, but fairly soon.
#5 - MAHA - Kennedy making adjustments to the ingredients in our foods will make us healthier and less dependents on the system.
#6 - Vaccines are giving us epidemics like Autism. look at the timelines for vaccines and when Autism and other illnesses came around and it’s too much of a coincidence that they are not connected.
Do all of the above and healthcare cost comes down.
this is what i read somewhere recently:
we pay more in-order to reduce it Globally
Bunch of horse crap!
#2 - STOP paying for ILLEGALS healthcare, if they are sick here and go to a hospital, send their arse to the holding center at the border and let them walk across and find healthcare there. Hate to be insensitive to someone’s health issues, but we have Americans that literally go bankrupt due to medical conditions and 6-figure medical bills. and we also have Vets that can’t get timely service, time to take care of ourselves.
#3 - Stop paying for lifelong welfare queen situations medical care. If they are physically able to get a job, go get one. limit the free care to 1-year max.
#4 - Once AI kicks in and the “super chips” are available for medical trials, they say it will cut $100’s of Billions in trial expenses and cut down the trial period by 80-90%, when will this come? i don’t know, but fairly soon.
#5 - MAHA - Kennedy making adjustments to the ingredients in our foods will make us healthier and less dependents on the system.
#6 - Vaccines are giving us epidemics like Autism. look at the timelines for vaccines and when Autism and other illnesses came around and it’s too much of a coincidence that they are not connected.
Do all of the above and healthcare cost comes down.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 6:14 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Truth in billing would be a good start. The frickery with the wide variance in the cost of procedures/care is a problem. There is no standard.
This is the answer at least as you say a good start. They keep attacking this thing backwards. Insurance is a problem no doubt but what other industry are you provided a service and have no clue what it will cost. That or you actually call ahead to get pricing to only receive a bill double what they told you. The medical industry needs an overhaul.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 6:15 pm to Westbank111
A simple improvement....
Providers are responsible to set prices that reflect cost of operation and a profit to fund future improvement. BUT the same price must be charged to all receivers of service. The insurance companies would lose a lot of business with receivers paying actual cost.
Providers are responsible to set prices that reflect cost of operation and a profit to fund future improvement. BUT the same price must be charged to all receivers of service. The insurance companies would lose a lot of business with receivers paying actual cost.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 6:18 pm to Big Scrub TX
I like this model and fully agree it's one of my more liberal positions though.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 6:46 pm to RaoulDuke504
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What’s a real conservative solution to fix healthcare?
MIIA
Make Insurance Insurance Again.
I don't know what "Health Insurance" is today but it sure as hell isn't insurance.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 6:51 pm to RaoulDuke504
Get rid of 3rd party payers. Not going to happen as Americans have come addicted to "free".
Posted on 12/12/24 at 6:59 pm to RaoulDuke504
As one who works in the healthcare industry, I would say we need to stop looking at healthcare as a right. If people would have to work for it and pay for it, then capitalism would weed out much of the freeloading and prices would come down.
And put a cap on malpractice claims
And put a cap on malpractice claims
Posted on 12/12/24 at 7:46 pm to moneyg
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Who can do that?
I can?
I use the VA for mental health since I’m 70% ba disability but I have my long term GP who I use for my back pain meds and any random sickness. I keep a standing 3 month appointment for him to send my 3 Percocet scripts at a time but I can go in office any day I want and be seen if I’m sick. They also have a messaging app just like the VA where I can send them something about the symptoms and if ir doesn’t require controlled meds they’ll often just shoot what I need to the pharmacy without having to go in or pay for it
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:41 pm to RaoulDuke504
Health savings accounts starting at birth. Give matching funds from the government to a certain level and allow low risk investments making 3-4% a year. Imagine $50-$100 a month per kid a month with matching money from the government until your kid is 18. Let that continue to accrue and have individual accounts you can add all through life.
Young people are healthy and shouldn’t pull much until 30-40 when you start seeing a primary care physician. You should have a bank of money for regular checkups and can catch anything early. Matching government funds early to allow for access to medical care early can reduce Medicare costs later in life.
Shooting from the hip and throwing shite at the wall with this idea.
Young people are healthy and shouldn’t pull much until 30-40 when you start seeing a primary care physician. You should have a bank of money for regular checkups and can catch anything early. Matching government funds early to allow for access to medical care early can reduce Medicare costs later in life.
Shooting from the hip and throwing shite at the wall with this idea.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:52 pm to RaoulDuke504
Earn
Buy healthcare with what you earn if that’s your choice
That was easy
Buy healthcare with what you earn if that’s your choice
That was easy
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:59 pm to td01241
might want to keep quiet about your GP issuing routine opioid scripts. A lot of folks have gone to jail for that
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
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ACTUAL PRICE TRANSPARENCY
Right. There’s no competition without price at the point of service.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:37 pm to Trevaylin
It’s not “routine” mouth breather. I have two deployments and a back issue that causes cartilage tissue to basically melt between my spinal cords likelt caused from a rope slip fall during an air assault mission but lucky was only about 3.5 feet from ground. The Va refuses to give opiods so I asked him and he required me to get two x rays and two opinions from two different specialist no one is going to jail for him giving me 90 7.5 Percocet a month clown.
But yes the pill mills will get brought down and have.
But yes the pill mills will get brought down and have.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:41 pm to the808bass
So I know nothing much about the healthcare industry. Is this basically a case of government coming in and over regulating things and jigging anything for their biggest donors so only they can compete at scale or something close?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:49 pm to Jimmy Russel
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get rid of Medicare/Medicaid receiving guaranteed lowest prices. Problem solved
I see some people don't understand how this contributes to grossly inflated prices for everyone due both market distortions and associated administrative costs.
Explain this to me like I am 5.
Why does a hospital have to bill insurance or government X to get Y.
They should be able to bill what it costs and be done with it. None of exorbitant billing just to hopefully reach middle ground.
If you walked into a car dealer and they told you the car was a million dollars but because you have Blue Cross you can have it for 50,000, 40,000 if you have Medicare, or if you are an illegal immigrant with no insurance or ID, free.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:58 pm to LegendInMyMind
1st step, get rid of insurance for non- catastrophic things.
Basic healthcare should be menu price. Insurance shouldn't be involved. Got the sniffles? 50 bucks. Tummy hurts? 50 bucks. Simple things should be eliminated from insurance.
Beyond basic healthcare you should pay insurance for things that you couldn't pay for normally.
2nd step, disallow insurance companies from questioning the doctor's advice and trying to influence care.
Basic healthcare should be menu price. Insurance shouldn't be involved. Got the sniffles? 50 bucks. Tummy hurts? 50 bucks. Simple things should be eliminated from insurance.
Beyond basic healthcare you should pay insurance for things that you couldn't pay for normally.
2nd step, disallow insurance companies from questioning the doctor's advice and trying to influence care.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:08 pm to RaoulDuke504
Competition and a whole lot less BS red tape.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:10 pm to RaoulDuke504
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What’s a real conservative solution to fix healthcare?
Get the government out of it as much as is possible at this point.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:40 pm to td01241
Yes and no. The lack of transparency of cost at the point of sale/service is the result of arcane insurance contracts that have no standardization.
One contract for a hospital with an insurance company might be a case rate for the ER up to $2500 in billed charges and then 80% of CPT Grouper X charges. An inpatient stay could be based on per diem levels of care with carve outs for specific cardiac events ICD codes. And then you have various providers in the same hospital in and out of network. And a hospital MRI costing 3X what it would cost at the imaging center down the street.
It’s a purposeful asymmetry so that the health systems can take advantage of patients. And the insurance companies trying to game the health systems.
That’s to say nothing of J codes and AWP and 403b pricing.
One contract for a hospital with an insurance company might be a case rate for the ER up to $2500 in billed charges and then 80% of CPT Grouper X charges. An inpatient stay could be based on per diem levels of care with carve outs for specific cardiac events ICD codes. And then you have various providers in the same hospital in and out of network. And a hospital MRI costing 3X what it would cost at the imaging center down the street.
It’s a purposeful asymmetry so that the health systems can take advantage of patients. And the insurance companies trying to game the health systems.
That’s to say nothing of J codes and AWP and 403b pricing.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 11:42 pm
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