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What would you have done post-Cold War to prevent endless Middle East intervention?
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:39 pm
What would you have done from 1992 to present to prevent 9/11, Iraq 2.0., Afghanistan, Israel-Iran, Palestine, etc.
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Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:40 pm to Green Eggs 88
Besides gutting the CEEEEE EYE AEEEE?
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:19 pm to Green Eggs 88
Abolish the EPA and the Dept. of Energy, then drill baby, drill…
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:20 pm to Green Eggs 88
Not giving Iran money back
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:23 pm to Green Eggs 88
Opened Alaska wide open and drilled the frick out of it.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:24 pm to Green Eggs 88
Its like a rich teenager making bad decisions. Take away the allowance and car and make them get a job to pay for their own stuff...and the bad decisions arent so catastrophic anymore
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:26 pm to Green Eggs 88
How about not starting OP with your first ten posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:28 pm to Green Eggs 88
quote:
post-Cold War
too recent
the big damage was done in WWI
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:29 pm to Green Eggs 88
Ending the Cold War was ultimately a mistake. We needed the “evil Soviets” for two things:
1. They kept an iron fist on shite over there.
2. It’s painfully obvious that if the general population of Americans don’t have the evils of communism/socialism on display every night in their news, then they’ll gladly vote it in piece by piece and erode America from within.
1. They kept an iron fist on shite over there.
2. It’s painfully obvious that if the general population of Americans don’t have the evils of communism/socialism on display every night in their news, then they’ll gladly vote it in piece by piece and erode America from within.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:31 pm to Green Eggs 88
The seeds were already sown during the Cold War. The crop was already set.
Backing secular leaders everywhere would have been smart. Picking and choosing wasn't smart. Committing to Israel (which I don't specifically disagree with) sort of set the table for where we're at today.
It is the Brits' fault, but those Brits are dead and buried.
The question is: What do we do about it now if we can even do anything at all short of going old school, ancient/medieval warfare (which is apparently the only thing they can understand)? And the West has no stomach for one tenth of what it would take, anyway.
Backing secular leaders everywhere would have been smart. Picking and choosing wasn't smart. Committing to Israel (which I don't specifically disagree with) sort of set the table for where we're at today.
It is the Brits' fault, but those Brits are dead and buried.
The question is: What do we do about it now if we can even do anything at all short of going old school, ancient/medieval warfare (which is apparently the only thing they can understand)? And the West has no stomach for one tenth of what it would take, anyway.
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:46 pm to Ace Midnight
Iraq under Sadam was the perfect counterweight to Iran.
Syria was basically a peaceful nation that didn't tolerate the likes of AL Queda or ISIS.
No wars would have been the better strategy.
Syria was basically a peaceful nation that didn't tolerate the likes of AL Queda or ISIS.
No wars would have been the better strategy.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:30 pm to Green Eggs 88
Our problems go back to WW1. We have been in a continuous state of disarray since Wilson destroyed the world.
Easily the worst president in the entire history of the U.S.
Easily the worst president in the entire history of the U.S.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:41 pm to Green Eggs 88
Set federal defense contractors up with stronger public transparency requirements. Require stronger federal commitment to domestic energy production with incremental foreign energy trade tariffs. Hold despots (Libya, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Faux-Palestinians) and stateless harbors of radicalism (Afghanistan, Pakistan) in check with a very firm standing agreement of non-interference. Monroe Doctrine 2 or some such. Only its terms are not limited to military interference. Penalty of violation is a glowing desert that can’t be walked on for two centuries.
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:53 pm to Green Eggs 88
This won’t be a popular response but we could’ve picked Russia up in 1991 instead of kicking them while they were down. Could’ve been incredible allies with our shared natural resources, we wouldn’t have had to give a flying frick about the oil in the Middle East. China would be boxed in right now by the two biggest militaries.
Now we’re both still doing the Cold War dance bullshite via proxy wars. We’re both constantly entangled in Middle Eastern cluster fricks and China & Russia are becoming closer.
Now we’re both still doing the Cold War dance bullshite via proxy wars. We’re both constantly entangled in Middle Eastern cluster fricks and China & Russia are becoming closer.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:53 pm to Green Eggs 88
What would I have done to prevent the evolutionary bloodlust deeply ingrained within the minds and souls of the vast ocean of Islamic extremists looking to cut the head off as many of us as they possibly can, no matter the sharpness of the blade? I don’t know if I have a good answer ready for you on that one at the present moment. It’s a pretty complicated matter.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 11:25 pm to Green Eggs 88
Iran should have been blown to smithereens in retaliation for the hostage crisis. Ditto for Afghanistan after 9/11.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 11:38 pm to LRB1967
Hell...I started college back in 91. I hated grunge, so the music sucked, but it seemed like the world had some sort of order. In a million years I would have never seen all this Soros shite, despite all the "New World Order" talk at the time.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 11:51 pm to Green Eggs 88
Why start at 1992 and post cold war? Hell, let's go back to 1917.
I'd work to convince United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour, who in 1917 wrote the letter to Lord Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, that supported the establishment of a Zionist state in the middle east, setting into motion the establishment of Israel, later ratified in 1948 by the UN., not to write that damned letter.
I'd work to convince United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour, who in 1917 wrote the letter to Lord Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, that supported the establishment of a Zionist state in the middle east, setting into motion the establishment of Israel, later ratified in 1948 by the UN., not to write that damned letter.
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