re: What will Russia do if Ukraine re-takes Crimea?

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This whole Ukraine thing is descending into madness. All for the most corrupt country on earth and its kleptomaniac dictator.

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Yes Russia is a-hole and a terrible country run by a terrible, corrupt dictator working on behalf of a kleptocratic oligarchy.

That's why people have been shouting this since they invaded Ukraine

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People in Crimea would rather be Russian by the way.

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Not true.

How did Crimea’s residents feel before the war?
My research shows that identity in Crimea was far more complex than a region with a Russian, or pro-Russian, majority. Few in Crimea identified as pro-Russian nationalists. In fact, only those I interviewed within pro-Russian parties and movements identified as such. Instead, many identified as ethnically Russian, but with few cultural or political ties to Russia. Many others identified as between Ukraine and Russia: as Crimean. Meanwhile, many younger people did not identify, ethnically, even as Russian speakers, rather they identified as Ukrainian citizens.

We know we had underestimated the strength of people’s political identification with Ukraine before Russia’s war against Ukraine. Equally, we underestimated Ukraine’s capacity to mobilise citizens. Crimea was considered particularly unlikely to be a region with a community identifying foremost as Ukrainian citizens. Yet, in Kin Majorities I explore how political identification with Ukraine was important for many in Crimea before annexation, especially younger people.

Illegal, pointless and undesirable: a common view of Russian citizenship pre-2014
My book also highlights the fact that Crimea was passportised by Russia after annexation and not before. We know there were pockets of Russian citizens in Sevastopol before annexation – primarily those connected to the military, or military pensioners. But, outside of these pockets, there is little evidence of en masse acquisition of Russian citizenship before 2014.

My research shows that it is likely that Crimea was not passportised by Russia prior to annexation because Crimea’s residents viewed Russian citizenship as inaccessible, undesirable, illegitimate, and illegal.

Only the minority in pro-Russian parties wanted Russian citizenship. They wanted it to provide leverage against Ukraine. But Russian citizenship was not accessible to them. It was illegal by Ukrainian law. And Russia did not seem to facilitate access to Russian citizenship in Crimea – even for those in pro-Russian parties.

Instead, most people I interviewed in Crimea saw Russian citizenship as illegal and pointless. Even if Russian citizenship had been accessible for them, it would still have been undesirable. Russian citizenship failed to offer much in the way of rights they needed or wanted. Instead, they respected Ukraine’s laws where dual citizenship was illegal.

Russia has largely left Kiev alone. If Crimea is truly threatened that will change.

Ukraine isn’t taking Crimea for fricks sake. What a dumb thread.

I don't see the Ukes having the boots to take Crimea.
Can they make a deal to get it? Don't see that.

How will there ever be a peace deal, with or without Putin, that returns the Donbas and Crimea to Ukraine?

Don't see one without the other. I guess I don't see a end without a collapse of one of the combatants.

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How will there ever be a peace deal, with or without Putin, that returns the Donbas and Crimea to Ukraine?

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At some point Russia is going to have to admit it lost and was wrong.

Did you laugh when you typed that cause you should have.

Didn’t we just fight Iran to a draw? Limited warfare puts a superpower on more or less equal footing with a less powerful opponent. Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq and every war Israel fights with Hamas and Hezbollah are firm examples of this. Limited warfare is diplomacy with a missile. It isn’t very effective as that is not how war was meant to be fought.

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Sounds good but the opposite is what is happening. Ukraine is the country that is diverting recourses and on top of that they are out of missile defense weaponry. They have zero defense even in Kiev against incoming Russian military. Despite what you have been told, Ukrainian military is the military that is being degraded.

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Somehow this has been the case according to yall for years now…..



Yet Z and Ukraine keep on trucking

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It's slightly less funny than the 3-day war going on over 1600 days

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Zelensky is a maniac fighting an unwinnable war and forcing his people to die for nothing!!!1!1!1!111!!! He should just give up!!