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re: What is fueling the left's anti semitism?
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:02 am to TJGator1215
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:02 am to TJGator1215
To think George Soros actually champions Jewish rights is fricking laughable dude.
Laughable
Let me guess, you also think the Clinton Foundation actually gave two fricks about the people in Haiti just because their mission statement and Jake Tapper said so.
Laughable
Laughable
Let me guess, you also think the Clinton Foundation actually gave two fricks about the people in Haiti just because their mission statement and Jake Tapper said so.
Laughable
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:02 am to VOR
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The “left is not anti - Semitic just because many of them that Palestinians deserve a decent home and respect(and don’t deserve to be gunned down in their own neighborhoods
So what you are saying is that the left isn't anti Semite, they've just been propagandized?
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:09 am to thebigmuffaletta
Look at Europe.
They want to own the Muslim vote. They see it as a emerging political force.
They want to own the Muslim vote. They see it as a emerging political force.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:13 am to thebigmuffaletta
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I always thought liberals were champions of the Jewish state but that seems to have changed?
Over the last 8 years, the strange thing for me is to see Jewish acquaintances turning on Israel just because they are so invested in far left American politics.
It's like Odumbf*ck turned them into complete f*cking morons.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:30 am to thebigmuffaletta
So, to clarify, if you don’t blindly accept anything and everything the Israeli government does, that makes one anti semitic?
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:36 am to Draconian Sanctions
it seems to be more than that
the Israeli government can be utter pieces of shite, but the framing of most argument is pro-Palestinian more than anti-Israel
i've said this a couple times but this comes down to the respect for power. leftist ideology, at least publicly, hates power and doesn't want it used as a justification for all sorts of things (including creating states). Palestinians are seen as lacking power and are therefore marginalized and perfect members of the modern-leftist coalition. it almost doesn't matter what they do or how evil they can be, because their lack of power justifies it all
hell you even seen this narrative slipped into the reporting on conflicts. the people who promote the leftist/marginalized narratives absolutely hate that Israel has better weapons so they frame reporting to hide the bad acts of the Palestinians and over-represent the Israeli power. it got to the point of absolute lies with this last one, with people reporting "peaceful" protests that were anything but
the sad part is Hamas knows how to play Western media like a fiddle and they carry water for a terrorist organization. have some self awareness
the Israeli government can be utter pieces of shite, but the framing of most argument is pro-Palestinian more than anti-Israel
i've said this a couple times but this comes down to the respect for power. leftist ideology, at least publicly, hates power and doesn't want it used as a justification for all sorts of things (including creating states). Palestinians are seen as lacking power and are therefore marginalized and perfect members of the modern-leftist coalition. it almost doesn't matter what they do or how evil they can be, because their lack of power justifies it all
hell you even seen this narrative slipped into the reporting on conflicts. the people who promote the leftist/marginalized narratives absolutely hate that Israel has better weapons so they frame reporting to hide the bad acts of the Palestinians and over-represent the Israeli power. it got to the point of absolute lies with this last one, with people reporting "peaceful" protests that were anything but
the sad part is Hamas knows how to play Western media like a fiddle and they carry water for a terrorist organization. have some self awareness
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:38 am to thebigmuffaletta
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What is fueling the left's anti semitism?
Their tolerance
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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but the framing of most argument is pro-Palestinian more than anti-Israel
Is it though?
I think most just want to take a balanced look at the situation and be fair to both sides.
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hell you even seen this narrative slipped into the reporting on conflicts.
It ALWAYS comes back to the fricking media with y’all doesn’t it?
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 7:40 am
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:45 am to Draconian Sanctions
were you asleep yesterday?
A Grotesque Spectacle in Jerusalem
it was a pretty big story with really biased narratives everywhere
A Grotesque Spectacle in Jerusalem
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The juxtaposition of images of dead and wounded Palestinians and Ivanka Trump smiling in Jerusalem like a Zionist Marie Antoinette tell us a lot about America’s relationship to Israel right now.
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But if Israelis love Trump, many Americans — and certainly most American Jews — do not.
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By Michelle Goldberg
it was a pretty big story with really biased narratives everywhere
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:45 am to ElectricWizard0
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Trump is the reason for it
Hate trumps Trump
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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were you asleep yesterday?
#1 No, I just don’t read everything that comes out nor do I care about the media nearly as much as most of you.
#2 the media =\= the left.
#3 your examples read as more anti-Trump to me than anti-Israel
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:50 am to Draconian Sanctions
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#2 the media =\= the left.
it's only like 95% of it
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No, I just don’t read everything that comes out
it was literally the #1 story in the Western world yesterday, at least until lunch
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#3 your examples read as more anti-Trump to me than anti-Israel
well there is a reason they picked on Ivanka (because she's Jewish)
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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it's only like 95% of it
There are millions upon millions upon millions of liberals in this country. Are they all members of the media?
And further do you really think someone’s politics play into every single decision they make at their job?
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it was literally the #1 story in the Western world yesterday, at least until lunch
Cool, I was listening to my Newcastle/PSG podcasts
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well there is a reason they picked on Ivanka (because she's well known and they had a zinger headline ready to go)
FTFY
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 7:56 am
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:56 am to thebigmuffaletta
It's not anti semitism - most of them probably don't know what 'semitism' is.
They are anti-Israel. That is because Israel is a friend of the conservative element in USA politics. If the Sudan were friendly to conservatives, they'd be anti-sudanese.
With the left, it is all about ideology. Nothing else matters except garnering political power for the sake of having political power. They have no principles - but they will mouth support for any 'principle' that brings them momentary political advantage.
The biggest tell is how they treat blacks. They don't give a shite about 'blacks' - in fact they are virulent toward any black person who 'betrays' them and voices support for a conservative viewpoint. All they care about are the 'plantation blacks' who step and fetch it at their command.
Everybody knows this.
They are anti-Israel. That is because Israel is a friend of the conservative element in USA politics. If the Sudan were friendly to conservatives, they'd be anti-sudanese.
With the left, it is all about ideology. Nothing else matters except garnering political power for the sake of having political power. They have no principles - but they will mouth support for any 'principle' that brings them momentary political advantage.
The biggest tell is how they treat blacks. They don't give a shite about 'blacks' - in fact they are virulent toward any black person who 'betrays' them and voices support for a conservative viewpoint. All they care about are the 'plantation blacks' who step and fetch it at their command.
Everybody knows this.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:57 am to bamarep
So you can't refute what I posted so you try to change the point of contention. I'll give you a point for trying out of pity.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:01 am to shinerfan
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Compared to the historical norm we all won the fricking lottery growing up in 20th century Dixie. Downright idyllic.
This point is lost on most Americans, particularly those under 40 - why? It's relatively unearned and we're far enough from the Depression and WWII generations for this unearned opulence to just be criminally unappreciated.
And worse, they assume that it either:
1. Just happened by chance (and I'm not attacking your lottery analogy, because it's fair in and of itself), or, worse,
2. We took it from someone else.
Neither of those things are true - the United States IS the result of extremely hard work by folks who were committed to rule of law and free market capitalism. America is a blessing to the world as we've made the world a better place. And I'm disinterested in arguing with folks who cannot concede that. They're ignorant or worse.
Perfect? No. Awesome and make the world a better place? You bet your arse.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:07 am to Ace Midnight
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the United States IS the result of extremely hard work by folks who were committed to rule of law and free market capitalism. America is a blessing to the world as we've made the world a better place. And I'm disinterested in arguing with folks who cannot concede that. They're ignorant or worse.
no truer words were ever spoken - and the fact that this is not a central message of our educational system from pre-K on up is a sad situation. The fact that the exact opposite message is being indoctrinated into our children is criminal.
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Perfect? No. Awesome and make the world a better place? You bet your arse.
/\ THIS /\
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:09 am to thebigmuffaletta
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I always thought liberals were champions of the Jewish state but that seems to have changed?
Nope. This has been going on since the State of Israel was founded.
It was the beginning of the Cold War, and the US supported the establishment of Israel, and the USSR went with the Palestinians. College professors and media were just following orders from the Kremlin and began their indcoctrination of the public.
This is where the Neo-Cons come from. They were originally liberals, but left the movement as it became more and more pro-Soviet.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:11 am to thebigmuffaletta
The left hates America, muslims hate America, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It’s that simple.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:17 am to jnethe1
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The left hates America
Conservatives always talk about how elitist and smug liberals are, and that this drives people to the right. Yet in the next breath they say shite like this and think they have a monopoly on patriotism.
There is literally nothing more elitist or smug than “_____ hates America”
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