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re: What has happened to this country? Everyone now craves the control of big government?

Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:13 am to
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1876 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:13 am to
It is a big government.

Better to control it than to let it control you.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2973 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:16 am to
i agree i wish our southern governors had fought harder to preserve segregation! their failure on that front has resulted in little rock public schools being 80% minority majority and only 23% are proficient in reading!

say it with me democrats! segregation now! segregation tomorrow! segregation forever!
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 9:17 am
Posted by araminta
Tennessee, USA
Member since Apr 2005
436 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:17 am to
Well said!
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:29 am to
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Political arguments no longer center around whether the government should be able to do something, instead it’s how they should use their power in a way that one side likes.

I dont understand your take here

We arent craving control, we are demanding the part the founding fathers promised, the pursuit of happiness

My take is the complete opposite. We just lived thru 4 years of a govt that did nothing to advance our pursuit. Zero.

They didnt enforce our laws
They didnt defend our borders
They didnt investigate theft and fraud
They didnt abide by Title IX regs for womens sports
They didnt challenge or investigate election inconsistencies
They didnt intervene on vaccines, firings, treatments, etc
and on and on and on

Your take is that you want less govt involvement. Well, you got it in spades. Being the party of less govt, suddenly became the party of the wild, wild west. Chaos. Anarchy. Thats what less govt eventually becomes

The pendulum is swinging back, and it looks harsh, but its simply restoring order to those that feasted off not being challenged by governing authority. Its how white liberal women seized control. The push back is them not wanting govt to do its job. They want the control that less govt allowed them
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5912 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:32 am to
Dick Cheney gave one of the better defenses of the patriot act, enhanced interrogation, indefinite detentions, etc. I heard after 9/11.

To paraphrase he said these methods are preventing another major attack and if there is another major attack every complaining about these methods will voluntarily give up much more of their civil liberties for security.

The justification looks even more outrageous when you realize people just need to be convinced they are under attack to give up their liberties for security.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5852 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:33 am to
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Deep State

Best one. Love the misuse and has become very, very overused since 2016.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93412 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:34 am to
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I used to believe conservatives generally wanted the government to have less control, but now I see most people just want the government to control them in a way they like.
even libertarians admit the role of the government should be limited to affairs of national security.

what the frick do you think ICE is trying to do????
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2140 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:38 am to
If you really think Trump and his populism represent more government control, after watching the years of covid response with the left in control, you are not a very intelligent person!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:39 am to
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Best one. Love the misuse and has become very, very overused since 2016.


With the Venezuela and Iran situations you're seeing a lot of revisionism about both "Deep State" and "globalism"
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
1200 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:40 am to
Its a very obvious concern troll tactic where they conflate the idea of having any political opinion whatsoever into being in favor of big government. Yes I want people who share my same views running the government and taking actions to further advance those views. Go ahead and call me pro government or whatever else but this little game wont work.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:40 am to
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Your take is that you want less govt involvement. Well, you got it in spades. Being the party of less govt, suddenly became the party of the wild, wild west. Chaos. Anarchy. Thats what less govt eventually becomes

The pendulum is swinging back, and it looks harsh, but its simply restoring order to those that feasted off not being challenged by governing authority. Its how white liberal women seized control. The push back is them not wanting govt to do its job. They want the control that less govt allowed them


quote:

If you really think Trump and his populism represent more government control, after watching the years of covid response with the left in control, you are not a very intelligent person!


Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4233 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:41 am to
The left has completely bought in to the Russian ploy. They have been sowing this discontent since the 40’s and before.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55608 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:42 am to
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With populists, expect populism.

SFP is an unpopular poster on this site, but he pretty much nails it here. Populism is rule of the majority, and the majority will always want more things for themselves. Freedom is the sacrifice to get those things.

Populism was the only weapon strong enough to effectively wield against the New World Order. I’m glad Trump pulled that sword from the stone. The trick is bury it again when we’ve vanquished the NWO.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4723 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:47 am to
As it turns out, "Pax Americana" is unaffordable.
At least, to the USA.

For London/NATO, bankrupting the US is going to hurt some, but they will find a way to soldier on.
The US is not supposed to have a choice in the matter.

Message brought to you courtesy of the Uniparty getting rich off of the same system they have been running for 80 years.

This is a Fourth Turning. An event timeline that plays out over a decade or more. It is never easy.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5999 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:58 am to
You want to know why we will remain the World's Police for the foreseeable future?

We import all of our cheap electronics from China, along with plastic products and cheap textile products. This can also be said of Vietnam and India. Cellphones, ipads, computers.
We import cheap car parts and numerous agricultural products from Mexico. Some places put the number at 1/3 of our fresh produce.
We import numerous minerals and crude oil from Canada.
We import many of our pharmaceuticals from Europe, specifically Ireland and Switzerland.
We import oil from the middle east in vast quantities.
Cars from Japan and Korea.
Precious minerals from Africa.
Coffee from South America.

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 20% of every dollar spent in the US is spent on things imported. And that is significantly tilted towards cheap product that is the basis of low income life.

So yeah. Until we unbundle our economy and our very fabric of life from the rest of the world and be completely economically independent, we will always be involved in the world's affairs.
We will never, willingly, allow the world to devolve into a conflict like WW2. So we play police.

It is why libertarian isolationist people like Rand Paul and their foreign policy views are retarded.

You have to isolate yourself from the world economy first.

And the first President to really make any moves in that direction in a real way is Trump.
If you really want to get to a point where we aren't the World Police, the first thing you need to cheer for is Drill Baby Drill.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 10:03 am
Posted by EastWestConnection
Denver/Shenzhen/Belfast
Member since Jul 2024
1990 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 10:02 am to
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and the greatest threat to all life on the planet (the U.S.S


It’s astonishingly clear that we are the threat that we claimed the soviets were
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5999 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 10:05 am to
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It’s astonishingly clear that we are the threat that we claimed the soviets were

The US starved 6 million (maybe as many as 10 mil, we don't really know) of their own people?
WTF are you talking about?

Unless you are saying abortion is murder. Then......yeah.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50090 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 10:06 am to
quote:

With populists, expect populism


I wouldn't refer to all of this Somalian daycare fraud as populism, but that's just me.

Obtw, SFP, you were on here trying to minimize the fraud in Minnesota when it first broke. Do you think your buddy Timmy Walz would've dropped out of his re-election campaign if there was nothing to hide?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82437 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 10:13 am to
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We're blaming this on diversity now?



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Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5967 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 10:24 am to
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They didnt enforce our laws
They didnt defend our borders
They didnt investigate theft and fraud
They didnt abide by Title IX regs for womens sports
They didnt challenge or investigate election inconsistencies
They didnt intervene on vaccines, firings, treatments, etc
and on and on and on


This is not because of "limited government". This because a certain group chooses not to enforce current law.
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