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What exactly got better for all Americans from 2021-2024?
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:05 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:05 am
When the Democrats were running the place?
List your pros/cons, for me it was awful having an open border. I'm not sure what was good. Can't say what's changed much the last two years either. I'm now officially suffering from political burnout, and will go fishing all I can.
List your pros/cons, for me it was awful having an open border. I'm not sure what was good. Can't say what's changed much the last two years either. I'm now officially suffering from political burnout, and will go fishing all I can.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:06 am to Bandit1980
What’s got better period since 2020?
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:07 am to Bandit1980
We are now governed by the least informed. They go on feels, not facts. But Trump and the GOP did very little to improve things from the Biden debacle. Once again the Washington Generals snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:07 am to Bandit1980
2020 to the end of 2026 was pretty much exactly the same. We expected so much more from Trump. We knew what we would get from Biden. Trump is by far the bigger disappointment.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:10 am to sta4ever
Biden was a huuuge disaster…..the open borders pumped up crime and fraud….inflation was rampant and eventually labeled Bidenflation…cities were burning….other countries looked at Biden wandering around in the woods and laughed at the USA
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:18 am to Zgeo
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Biden was a huuuge disaster…..the open borders pumped up crime and fraud….inflation was rampant and eventually labeled Bidenflation…cities were burning….other countries looked at Biden wandering around in the woods and laughed at the USA
You don’t think other countries have been thinking the same thing the past 2 years??
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:22 am to Zgeo
No POTUS can possibly turn around the current state of the US
No single Party can possibly turn around the current state of the US.
It will take all of DC working together with a common mission the resurrect US greatness .
Only a catastrophic event could possibly bring DC together in any meaningful way. They are incapable of agreeing on a common mission.
Prepare yourselves ….. the Debt looms large, the largesse even larger.

No single Party can possibly turn around the current state of the US.
It will take all of DC working together with a common mission the resurrect US greatness .
Only a catastrophic event could possibly bring DC together in any meaningful way. They are incapable of agreeing on a common mission.
Prepare yourselves ….. the Debt looms large, the largesse even larger.

This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 7:22 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:23 am to sta4ever
If you really reflect on it from years past, the shite-hit-the-fan starting in 2000.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:28 am to sta4ever
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What’s got better period since 2020?
2nd amendment, hugely.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:30 am to sta4ever
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What’s got better period since 2020?
Lots of economic pump priming that won't be felt for a while.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:35 am to Bandit1980
Apparently we’re only supposed to care about the DOW index price, so by that metric the Biden Admin was amazing.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:39 am to Bandit1980
The answer is “not much” and that’s why Teump won
Kamala couldn’t make a case for why she was better than Biden
Trump plugged into the issues and got elected with good support from marginal folks in swing states. He got people to come out of their comfort zones to vote for him.
Then he dropped the ball. Voters went back to their comfort zones.
Kamala couldn’t make a case for why she was better than Biden
Trump plugged into the issues and got elected with good support from marginal folks in swing states. He got people to come out of their comfort zones to vote for him.
Then he dropped the ball. Voters went back to their comfort zones.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:44 am to Bandit1980
Well, this was the origin point of AI/SI. Impressive first 18 months, scoffed at by many.
This gave everyone access to knowledge, training, mentoring without the cost historically associated.
During the next 18 months, it was a better software engineer than I am, after 40 years.
By the time Trump took office last year, the inflection point had already been reached and changed the way companies do business. We hired (some) of our interns last year, they all describe a time of chaos trying to be hired out of school now and are grateful for their positions.
All in 4-5 years.
PS - And none of this, was government driven.
This gave everyone access to knowledge, training, mentoring without the cost historically associated.
During the next 18 months, it was a better software engineer than I am, after 40 years.
By the time Trump took office last year, the inflection point had already been reached and changed the way companies do business. We hired (some) of our interns last year, they all describe a time of chaos trying to be hired out of school now and are grateful for their positions.
All in 4-5 years.
PS - And none of this, was government driven.
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 7:45 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:45 am to Bandit1980
Well, you certainly can’t claim the Judiciary Branch has gotten better ….
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:52 am to SelaTiger
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2020 to the end of 2026 was pretty much exactly the same. We expected so much more from Trump. We knew what we would get from Biden. Trump is by far the bigger disappointment.
2024 was actually better than 2026. The economy was finally starting to look better then tariffs came along and everything went back to shite
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US Economic Indicators 2024
Gross Domestic Product (GDP): Real GDP expanded by 2.8% (with some estimates around 2.5%), driven heavily by robust consumer spending and business fixed investment. [1, 2]
Inflation: Headline and core inflation continued to recede from post-pandemic highs, with the PCE price index rising 2.6% (core PCE at 2.8%) through December 2024. [1]
Labor Market: The national unemployment rate stabilized at 4.1% as nonfarm payroll job growth slowed to a steady, sustainable pace. [1]
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US Economic Key Indicators 2026
U.S. Annual Growth: Projections and forecasts (such as from the Congressional Budget Office) place full-year 2026 U.S. real GDP growth around 2.2%
Inflation: The Consumer Price Index (CPI) rose to 3.7% in September 2026, pushed upward by tariffs, restricted immigration-driven labor shortages, and energy price shocks stemming from the conflict involving Iran. [1, 2, 3]
Labor Market: The unemployment rate remains low at 4.2%, though job growth has cooled in select sectors. Wages have struggled to keep pace with the jump in the cost of living. [1, 2]
And no, 2024 economy wasnt doing better because Biden. It was better because Biden somehow managed to not frick it up (he was probably asleep). Something Trump was unable to do.
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 8:01 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:58 am to Bandit1980
Millionaires became billionaires. Billionaires became trillionaires.
Meanwhile, I haven’t had a decent raise to combat cost of living. Then my gas skyrocketed because of another war. A bunch of bodies of water and buildings were named after the President.
Summed it up.
Meanwhile, I haven’t had a decent raise to combat cost of living. Then my gas skyrocketed because of another war. A bunch of bodies of water and buildings were named after the President.
Summed it up.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:55 am to Bandit1980
Nothing was better under Biden. People are just emotional and can't see anything past what is directly in front of them.
Nothing people are complaining about now will get better with democrats in charge. Recent history proves this, but people prefer their feelings over facts.
The top priority of democrats now is punishing conservatives and strengthening their power. The conservatives who sat home think they were punishing a billionaire near the end of a fantastic life, but they are only punishing themselves.
I don't even think most will accept it even when it smashes them in the face. Democrats will make things worse so that they can blame it on Trump for 2028, and all the emotional people will once again fall for it.
I just wish rational people didn't have to suffer from the manic overreactions of the average person.
Nothing people are complaining about now will get better with democrats in charge. Recent history proves this, but people prefer their feelings over facts.
The top priority of democrats now is punishing conservatives and strengthening their power. The conservatives who sat home think they were punishing a billionaire near the end of a fantastic life, but they are only punishing themselves.
I don't even think most will accept it even when it smashes them in the face. Democrats will make things worse so that they can blame it on Trump for 2028, and all the emotional people will once again fall for it.
I just wish rational people didn't have to suffer from the manic overreactions of the average person.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:59 am to sta4ever
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What’s got better period since 2020?
The majority of people willingly, not reluctantly, went along with the 2020 shenanigans. Now they blame one man for the increase price of living that rocketed up at that time. Just don't remind them, they'll get mad at you.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 10:04 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
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We are now governed by the least informed. They go on feels, not facts.
Truth. Don’t even try to present them with facts. They flat out reject them if they contradict their feelings.

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